I don’t think anyone IV dripping a culture that feeds into a person’s anger is going to going to be happier or feeling a sense of purpose and fulfillment. There’s a difference between just being a gym bro and listening to influencers that make money off of playing into your insecurities.
I question how attached they were to a feminist identity either though if a breakup shook the identity off of them.
Black and white thinking doesn’t make sense here. The initial premise you give that liberals really only want private ownership for everything all of the time doesn’t line up with reality, especially in regards to younger people that are more liberal and left leaning.
I believe there are more people that can look around at their local community and see “yeah maybe that wasn’t such a good idea that we let private equity bankrupt X local chain to offload their debts”.
Many people can see there is some nuance of “okay maybe this specific situation we should have had more barriers to prevent”. Less or no corporate landownership is a direct fix to corporate landlords, imo.
Congrats, you are most likely NOT a liberal.
I believe you, or perhaps your peers, would still call me a liberal for several reasons. Certainly people on the completely opposite side of the aisle would label me a liberal. The first is that I’m not against the premise of capitalism, the an incentive based economic structure, but moreso the implementation and near-complete disregard of any sort of balancing mechanism. I don’t believe in the nonsense that is spouted as “free market capitalism”, but instead a form of modified capitalism with UBI and unions to put power back into the hands of workers instead of the corporate owners.
Oh yeah, such a disagreeable thing for non-liberals, huh? Very controversial, we socialists want to have EVERYTHING public, NO EXCEPTIONS! No, actually no.
Many of your peers differ from your view. Many people I’ve spoken with wanted no forms of private control and no private businesses. I’ve heard many variations of “You lease from the government and then your lease is up”.
Yup, that’s definitely not a thing a liberal would say.
I’m a left-leaning liberal, it’s not mutually exclusive. Someone that’s strictly pro-corporate and no government intervention, (e.g., someone right leaning) might be opposed to those things.
I think you’ll find that the biggest difference between me and someone else that wants the same things for people (UBI, childcare, housing, etc.) is the means in which those goals are achieved. I believe in a multifaceted approach of promoting unionization, working towards collective bargaining agreements, promoting left-leaning politicians at all levels of government, and voting for incremental change along the way as well.
Some people, online specifically, would rather people check out from all or any of those steps of working towards bringing positive change.
The terms are not mutually exclusive, you can want more things to be publicly owned or operated but still want some forms of private ownership such as in the case of owning a home.
Do I think corporations should own the land for corporate enterprises or even for apartment buildings? Fuck no, that should be public since the land owners are incompetent and will try to generate a profit on things like hospitals, low income housing, or forcing out all of the good restaurants in the community.
Individual ownership for private use I don’t see a problem with though, such as home ownership, at least for one house. Although I see that as an incentive that should be there to encourage and reward work. Transportation could be mostly solved by a better public transit system that was connected.
Medical care, insurance, social security, childcare expenses, and many more could be covered by taxes, at least taxes on corporations. Yet alone having something like a Universal Basic Income to cover people’s daily expenses. There could be better union protections and such but I feel that’s branching the conversation off a bit much.
I’d also chime in that definition change and can mean very different things in different places. It’s a bit silly how frequently I see other left leaning people, purely online, demonize anyone using liberal as a label.
To me it comes off as a bit manufactured division. It’s far too abundant to see on spaces like Reddit and certain Lemmy instances, yet near complete absent from offline discourse.
It really depends on how you define things; a black and white definition doesn’t account for scenarios where one could logically be both leftist and liberal. So it’s not exactly nonsense.
I’m personally in the boat of seeing kids as adding to one’s life rather than draining it and making dreams rather than taking them away. But having kids is something my partner and I want. My only other dream is to ever own the roof over my head, but that’s not totally likely.
I feel that having kids would not seem as daunting for more people if we had real safety nets to support people that would even consider being parents. Such as free daycare, a basic income, universal healthcare, and stipends specifically to pay for costs associated with kids like for diapers, bottles, books, ever changing clothes sizes, etc.
Agreed, unless the system itself is changed, at the state level, within each state, to use a different voting system. Which is worth pursuing btw, and something Alaska and Maine have both pulled off.
I’m so tired of seeing people getting mad about the two party system, but not even bringing up the fact we can totally change the system to use a form of Ranked Choice Voting, just by getting signatures to put it on the ballot! Well at least for over half the states this method works.
People’s energy would be much better spent advocating for groups like the Equal Vote Coalition or Fair Vote. Both of those groups desperately need volunteers and could actually use the social media advocacy given they are getting single digit support on Fediverse sites currently.
Accelerationism won’t get you what you want, it just ensures authoritarians are in power no matter what. Historically, these people don’t care about redistributing squat.
Focused changed at a local level can actually bear fruit and can be scaled up. Social programs can already create an economic floor, even under our current capitalist system. For instance, Universal Basic Income implemented at a state level or federal level would solve the economic woes people encounter.
If you think your framework has any grounds of legitimacy you should be able to think of how to even make it possible on a small scale level.
What’s functionally stopping you from living on a commune on an empty dot on a map or a deserted island and making your dream of no government a reality with your peers?
What a refreshing conclusion to the story, it’s nice to read about these positive outcomes where the couple grows from the experience.
Open communication is one of the core things that makes relationships last imo.
I think identity politics is a bit of a separate conversation. Even the term itself is a bit broad and difficult to ascribe to one thing or another. Do I think some people make one thing or another their entire personality? Oh 100%. And it’s something that’s beyond just politics as well.
Like you said though there are plenty of people that are probably nuts, who only hold onto a label to be part of some ‘counter culture’ group or another. People who don’t really have strong moral convictions aside from wanting to have an audience and would leave their current position in a heartbeat if the spotlight was pulled from them.