You can never be really sure that they are freely consenting
I am in no way arguing for incest. I am not arguing for mistreatment of anyone. Or that it’s appropriate to misconstrue the facts to hide “family secrets”. I am well aware of the dangers of grooming. If you want to go into people’s homes to see if adults are behaving themselves sexually, then you also are deranged.
I don’t think anyone argued for “going into people’s houses to check”.
But the question about “freely consenting” is grooming and power dynamics. So if you are not in favor of these things, what was said that you have an issue with?
Just as a reminder, the topic was what the problem with incest is.
I think that because I am wondering when I read your comment, why are you defending the right to have incest for some “fucking weird” people when you were just made aware of the danger of grooming, especially in that context?
You are pushing me into a corner with your own definitions of “power dynamics” and consent. I can’t speak for anyone else on consent, which is what originally provoked me, that someone else would want to reach in and define consent or question others’ adult definitions. Look into some kink play, again, people are pretty fucking weird.
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I am in no way arguing for incest. I am not arguing for mistreatment of anyone. Or that it’s appropriate to misconstrue the facts to hide “family secrets”. I am well aware of the dangers of grooming. If you want to go into people’s homes to see if adults are behaving themselves sexually, then you also are deranged.
I don’t think anyone argued for “going into people’s houses to check”.
But the question about “freely consenting” is grooming and power dynamics. So if you are not in favor of these things, what was said that you have an issue with?
Just as a reminder, the topic was what the problem with incest is.
You are pushing me into a corner with your own definitions of “power dynamics” and consent. I can’t speak for anyone else on consent, which is what originally provoked me, that someone else would want to reach in and define consent or question others’ adult definitions. Look into some kink play, again, people are pretty fucking weird.
I didn’t intend to push you in a corner and I can assure you that “kink play” is very aware of power dynamics and consent.