People have this weird fetish for “Microsoft Bad”. If it comes from Microsoft, it’s bad by default. Reality doesn’t matter.
The fact that Edge is just objectively a better browser than Chrome is irrelevant, because “Microsoft Bad”.
The fact that Bing now provides just as good, if not better, results as Google, because Google enshittified its own product is irrelevant, because “Microsoft Bad”.
The fact that Copilot runs on the exact same models as ChatGPT and gives practically identical results is irrelevant because “Microsoft Bad”.
See? This is exactly the childish shit I’m talking about. “Microsoft bad” is all you need to get upvotes, but if you state some cut and dry facts that are not attacking Microsoft, you get downvoted.
microsoft is bad. google is too. and so is openai.
edge used to be internet explorer, which used to be known as the worst browser ever. and if you care at all about privacy, the chrome-based microsoft browser isn’t a good idea.
bing used to be really bad.
copilot gets shoved down every window user’s throats.
edge used to be internet explorer, which used to be known as the worst browser ever
And Linux used to not have a GUI. Are you going to complain that Linux is too difficult to use because it used to be command-line based? What even is this point?
and if you care at all about privacy, the chrome-based microsoft browser isn’t a good idea.
When comparing Chromium-based browsers you don’t expect much privacy at all. But even comparing Chromium-based browsers people will still go “ughh, Chrome is better because Microsoft Bad”, which is just a stupid thing to say considering Edge has everything that Chrome has and then a bunch of features on top of that. Including better resource utilisation.
bing used to be really bad.
See first paragraph.
copilot gets shoved down every window user’s throats.
edge used to be internet explorer, which used to be known as the worst browser ever
what i meant by that is: people used to hate internet explorer because it was the worst. even though it changed completely, people still hate it because of it’s history.
And Linux used to not have a GUI. Are you going to complain that Linux is too difficult to use because it used to be command-line based? What even is this point?
yes, indeed. i’m not sure about GUI since that’s so long ago and windows used to be MSDOS, but similarly to edge, people think linux is hard because of it’s history of requiring the terminal for basic functions.
When comparing Chromium-based browsers you don’t expect much privacy at all. But even comparing Chromium-based browsers people will still go “ughh, Chrome is better because Microsoft Bad”, which is just a stupid thing to say considering Edge has everything that Chrome has and then a bunch of features on top of that. Including better resource utilisation.
honestly, idk much about edge, though i’ve also never seen anyone complain about edge simply because of “microsoft bad”.
bing used to be really bad.
See first paragraph.
you too, i guess
copilot gets shoved down every window user’s throats.
What’s the point you’re trying to make here?
people don’t want stuff shoved down their throats without consent, which seems to be what microsoft is really good at doing. actually, now that i think about it, that’s the same issue with edge, since whenever you uninstall it (which has to be done through unconventional means), it’ll just reappear the next time the system updates.
what i meant by that is: people used to hate internet explorer because it was the worst. even though it changed completely, people still hate it because of it’s history.
That’s precisely my point though. People are not talking about the product, they’re talking about the company/history. Not only was the original Edge very much “not Internet Explorer”, but nowadays Edge is running on Chromium, making the whole comparison to IE even stupider. But people still do, because “Microsoft Bad”.
people think linux is hard because of it’s history of requiring the terminal for basic functions.
People think Linux is hard because it still requires terminal for basic functions. Source: a guy who moved to Linux full-time over a year ago.
people don’t want stuff shoved down their throats without consent, which seems to be what microsoft is really good at doing
I get that, but what’s the relation of that to what I was talking about? I’m talking about comparing the capabilities of various LLMs where people will swear on their mothers that Copilot is the worst shite they ever saw, not realising that it’s essentially the same as ChatGPT.
Source: ran LLM testing and implementation in two different companies.
that’s the same issue with edge, since whenever you uninstall it (which has to be done through unconventional means), it’ll just reappear the next time the system updates.
That’s precisely my point though. People are not talking about the product, they’re talking about the company/history. Not only was the original Edge very much “not Internet Explorer”, but nowadays Edge is running on Chromium, making the whole comparison to IE even stupider. But people still do, because “Microsoft Bad”.
yeah. idk where you keep seeing this “microsoft bad” thing. people don’t like it because of its history. people still mostly use chrome because they learned it was faster than firefox, and now that they’re equal in speed, people still think of firefox as slower. not wanting a company’s product doesn’t have to mean they hate the company.
People think Linux is hard because it still requires terminal for basic functions. Source: a guy who moved to Linux full-time over a year ago.
if you don’t use one of the distros that come preinstalled with a bunch of ui apps that do stuff that used to require a terminal, sure.
I get that, but what’s the relation of that to what I was talking about? I’m talking about comparing the capabilities of various LLMs where people will swear on their mothers that Copilot is the worst shite they ever saw, not realising that it’s essentially the same as ChatGPT.
if you get orange juice shoved down your throat, you probably won’t like it, even if you generally like orange juice.
Yeah, that’s not the case for years now.
oh well, it is true that i haven’t used windows for years now.
And Linux used to not have a GUI. Are you going to complain that Linux is too difficult to use because it used to be command-line based? What even is this point?
When do you think Linux didn’t have a GUI? CDE was released in 1993, and let’s be honest: nobody used Linux before 1993.
People have this weird fetish for “Microsoft Bad”. If it comes from Microsoft, it’s bad by default. Reality doesn’t matter.
The fact that Edge is just objectively a better browser than Chrome is irrelevant, because “Microsoft Bad”.
The fact that Bing now provides just as good, if not better, results as Google, because Google enshittified its own product is irrelevant, because “Microsoft Bad”.
The fact that Copilot runs on the exact same models as ChatGPT and gives practically identical results is irrelevant because “Microsoft Bad”.
Etc., etc.
Microsoft is bad though
See? This is exactly the childish shit I’m talking about. “Microsoft bad” is all you need to get upvotes, but if you state some cut and dry facts that are not attacking Microsoft, you get downvoted.
microsoft is bad. google is too. and so is openai.
edge used to be internet explorer, which used to be known as the worst browser ever. and if you care at all about privacy, the chrome-based microsoft browser isn’t a good idea.
bing used to be really bad.
copilot gets shoved down every window user’s throats.
And Linux used to not have a GUI. Are you going to complain that Linux is too difficult to use because it used to be command-line based? What even is this point?
When comparing Chromium-based browsers you don’t expect much privacy at all. But even comparing Chromium-based browsers people will still go “ughh, Chrome is better because Microsoft Bad”, which is just a stupid thing to say considering Edge has everything that Chrome has and then a bunch of features on top of that. Including better resource utilisation.
See first paragraph.
What’s the point you’re trying to make here?
what i meant by that is: people used to hate internet explorer because it was the worst. even though it changed completely, people still hate it because of it’s history.
yes, indeed. i’m not sure about GUI since that’s so long ago and windows used to be MSDOS, but similarly to edge, people think linux is hard because of it’s history of requiring the terminal for basic functions.
honestly, idk much about edge, though i’ve also never seen anyone complain about edge simply because of “microsoft bad”.
you too, i guess
people don’t want stuff shoved down their throats without consent, which seems to be what microsoft is really good at doing. actually, now that i think about it, that’s the same issue with edge, since whenever you uninstall it (which has to be done through unconventional means), it’ll just reappear the next time the system updates.
That’s precisely my point though. People are not talking about the product, they’re talking about the company/history. Not only was the original Edge very much “not Internet Explorer”, but nowadays Edge is running on Chromium, making the whole comparison to IE even stupider. But people still do, because “Microsoft Bad”.
People think Linux is hard because it still requires terminal for basic functions. Source: a guy who moved to Linux full-time over a year ago.
I get that, but what’s the relation of that to what I was talking about? I’m talking about comparing the capabilities of various LLMs where people will swear on their mothers that Copilot is the worst shite they ever saw, not realising that it’s essentially the same as ChatGPT.
Source: ran LLM testing and implementation in two different companies.
Yeah, that’s not the case for years now.
yeah. idk where you keep seeing this “microsoft bad” thing. people don’t like it because of its history. people still mostly use chrome because they learned it was faster than firefox, and now that they’re equal in speed, people still think of firefox as slower. not wanting a company’s product doesn’t have to mean they hate the company.
if you don’t use one of the distros that come preinstalled with a bunch of ui apps that do stuff that used to require a terminal, sure.
if you get orange juice shoved down your throat, you probably won’t like it, even if you generally like orange juice.
oh well, it is true that i haven’t used windows for years now.
When do you think Linux didn’t have a GUI? CDE was released in 1993, and let’s be honest: nobody used Linux before 1993.
Let me rephrase: Linux used to be completely reliant on CLI for the most basic things.