Mate I’m not arguing with a Christian. And I’ve been one, trust me they ain’t got any poetry that compares with the awe inspired by the existence of galaxies. And lol at certain animals on a particular planet doing particular things with their genitals be vital gears in the machine. On this planet alone there are (and have been) so many different forms of sexual reproduction that the idea that the human way is somehow more important than any of them is laughable. The clockmaker has made an incomprehensible number of gear types. What you do with your dick isn’t going to impact the time in anyway. The clock ticks on regardless.

Side note. The absolute incomprehensible scale of the universe is part of what helped me see through the cult bullshit I grew up in. Hearing the poetry of Carl Sagan spoke more to me than any patriarch. Just because you’re not inspired by the Cosmos doesn’t mean others aren’t either

The point is if there is a god the dude has bigger concerns. I agree morality exists, but it is an entirely human construct. We’re on our own, there’s no sign that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. So don’t be a dick, but do whatever you want with your own dick so long as it doesn’t impose on others.

Who is arguing that money existed before people invented it? Who is arguing that America existed before 1776? The issue with God is people are arguing that it is not just a human invention, but in fact that humanity is an invention of God. Which is in direct conflict of our scientific understanding of the world around us which leads to a variety of issues. I have no idea what point you’re trying to make. Is it that made up things can have real influence? Sure, I don’t think anyone would disagree. But the difference is I use all sorts of things humans made up, I know they made up, but they are useful. If I started to argue that currency has existed since before the dawn of the universe you’d say I had a mental condition