transcription: just saw a straight woman CONFIDENTLY say lesbian marriage isnt a real marriage its just “two best friends who get each other off” and like bestie, idk what has gone wrong in your life but thats exactly what marriage is supposed to be, regardless of the genders involved. as opposed to real marriage, where you have two people who dislike each other and dont get each other off.

      • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone
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        25 days ago

        Realistically the fucking is optional so long as the both of you have agreed to the arrangements.

        Like I’m ace and my partner and I have been married for 8 years. It’s just been an 8 year long sleepover with my best friend with added tax benefits.

  • mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml
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    25 days ago

    As the joke goes:

    Baby, this relationship is so good I want to get the government involved!!!

    However I really feel that marriage is a vestige of the patriarchy and shouldn’t exist.

  • Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Marriage is really about tax filing and its propaganda from the sex and chocolate industries to say otherwise.

    I love my wife very much that’s why I want to do intimate things together like fill out form 1040 while cuddling.

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  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    As for the bottom comment of the screenshot, marriage has typically seen as economic for much of human history. So yes, real marriage is when two people dislike each other and don’t get each other off.

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    as opposed to real marriage where yo have two people who don’t get along and don’t get each other off

    I’ve seen so many of these - couples who viciously hate each other yet ‘don’t believe in divorce’

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    I’ll never understand the assertion that it’s normal for married people to not get along with their spouse or their spouse isn’t their best friend. What exactly do people think the point of marriage is beyond religious reasons?

    • Cevilia (they/she/…)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I’ve been with my wife for sixteen years next month. I’m still madly in love with her and I genuinely like being around her. I kinda hope she feels the same way about me.

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      Be old/conservative, want to have sex at 18 because hormones, you can’t unless you’re married, get hitched for life to the first attractive person who shows up, wake up in 10 years and realize you married a stranger and you don’t really get along.

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      25 days ago

      Tbf, I do feel spouses have a duty to hold eachother to a higher standard than friends do. For mutual improvement, growth, etc… And shared ownership/finances is huge. And often raising kids. Marriage is a lot more than just friendship, though that is a massively important part.

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      Because marrying for love is a very recent development when it comes to the institution of marriage.

      Marriage was created for the primary purpose of passing down family wealth, and ensuring that it stayed within the family. Marriage was a tool to secure political and economic relationships first and foremost. For most of history, consent between the couple to be didn’t even matter.

      This fundamental reason behind marriage predates most religions, who later co opted it.

      As time goes by, the actual reason behind traditions gets lost and forgotten, so most people just have some nebulous obligation to marry ingrained within them, e.g. my grandparents got married without even knowing each other, so people should be satisfied with anything better than that.

      This extremely problematic history behind marriage is also why some progressives perceive marriage as an oppressive institution that is impossible to reform, and seek to abolish it entirely.

      Ten key moments in the history of marriage - BBC News - https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17351133

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      So I grew up homeschooled with a conservative Christian mother. A lot of people I knew got married from the same small group of families, right after high school, and started having kids right after. (I know 2 sisters from one family that married 2 brothers from another). It’s what everyone did. Nobody gave themselves any time to meet new people, just married someone their age and the opposite sex they’d grown up with. Also, nobody had sex or lived with one another prior to getting married so you don’t really know who you’re marrying. But when you’re taught from an early age that people of the “world” are misguided and will never understand you, that’s what you get. I didn’t fall into this, but my brother did.

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      It’s easy and common for the sparks to die down after 15, 20 years and you’re left basically living with someone who feels like an acquaintance. It’s a trope for a reason.

      BTW there’s nothing wrong with that. Most people are mature enough by then to make it work.

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        Shit, I’ve been with my wife for 16 years (married for 1), sparks are still strong AF. Does the timer start when you get together or when you get married?

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        25 days ago

        Tell that to every person who has been married for 40+ years and is still madly in love with their spouse. It’s very common.

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    Historically marriage used to be a legal relationship for the purpose of discussing who takes care of the children. Children are really expensive and if it isn’t cleared uo who’s responsible for them, you end up with a situation where nobody seems responsible for them and the children suffer. To prevent that situation, marriage was introduced.

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM
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      I doubt this is true. They probably had more to do with binding households together than any consideration of the well being of anyone involved. Our modern concept of raising children past the age of 6 isn’t even that old.

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      Marriage was the sale of goods in trade for goods or a further trading relationship.

      The goods were a woman and a dowry, the trade was two families having a long term business relationship or if it was royalty then a short or long term peace treaty between countries or fiefdoms.

      Likely the discussion of children in case of rich families and royalty back in the day, was how many wet nurses and maids were needed to take care of the children so they could be not seen and not heard until they were adults.

  • JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Well there’s also romantic attraction. I know some aros who would love to fuck their best friend without any romance, but alloromantics tend to dislike that because they go and fall in love. Romantic love.

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      This is me I think. My most long lasting relationship was basically me and my best friend hanging out, living together, and having sex. I loved her a lot but looking back I don’t think it was ever quite in the way she wanted me to. We talked about marriage but it never really sat right with me. It’s been hard to accept that I might be aro. When I think about it too much I just feel sad because I’m afraid the kind of relationship I really want is impossible. Best friends who bang. I don’t want the exclusivity, expectations, or implicit sense of ownership of a romantic relationship. I value my autonomy way too much for that to feel anything but suffocating. I want to just choose to be with my besties every day and oops 30 years have gone by and we’re still together vibing and fucking.

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        Honestly, kinda the most wholesome way of describing the perfect aromantic relationship. I’m ace and deeply romantic, so it can feel hard to relate to what you describe. But I can respect it.

      • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        24 days ago

        Sounds like what you might want is polyamory

        I myself relate to what you’re saying a lot, with the exception of also wanting/having romantic feelings. I just don’t vibe with all that’s involved with monogamy

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          I mean yeah but not really. Poly is still about romantic relationships and still has a sense of hierarchy. Romantic relationships are still very much prioritized over other relationships, they just add extra layers of romantic hierarchy. Many poly people end up with one primary partner they prioritize over others, with secondary partners needs usually being overridden by the primary partners needs almost by default. It still feels just as exclusive and gross to me. I want multiple sex partners but I don’t want anything to do with someone who thinks they get a say in how I spend my time or with who.

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            There are many flavors of poly, you sound like you fall into relationship anarchism/solo poly, which is pretty much what I practice, as that’s what appeals the most to me.

            I don’t want to have a say in what my partner(s) can or cannot do, it doesn’t feel right to me. I want them to spend time with me because that’s what they want to do, and it’s not appealing to me to essentially make decisions for them. I don’t want to make rules and essentially establish any form for power or control over my partner(s). Maybe it comes naturally to me as I’m already an anarchist politically, I dunno, but either way

            It’s about finding the right people that suit you, really, I think