Had a heated argument with a tankie who glorified stalin and lenin. So fucking tired. The worst thing he’s a discord mod of a good streamer, and i left the server because i can’t be there anymore. Context: i’m russian whose grand-grandparents were repressed and forcibly relocated. Left Russia several years ago because i didn’t want to support the aggressive war in Ukraine. And his american (no offense to amreicans tho) ass tried to explain me that stalin is an actual hero who singlehandedly saved Europe from fascism, and all repressed were rich “bourgeois land owners” (actually, no. but even if yes, that’s a terrorism). Then he and other user started posting stupid tankie memes. Ofc they ignored my questions how LGBT+, religious groups and small nations were treated and deleted the message. I’m sick of that shit. Needed to vent somewhere.
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I can’t for the life of me understand why someone would advocate for an authoritarian government. Is it really just a really deep belief that “some animals are more equal than others” and that exploiting or oppressing those “lesser” is good?
frankly, yes. you’ve summarized the position basically perfectly. there’s a lot of people out there who view hierarchical society as necessary and good. auth comms take issue with the order of the hierarchy, but not with the structure of it
also that bootlickers yearn for someone to tell them what to do
and the answer to that is easy: they need to tell themselves. Or if they so badly want to, they should read Kropotkin.
Remember our rule about no tankie apologia before you comment!
The very idea that 21st century Russia is “anti-imperialist”, as they are actively engaged in a war to take over land that belongs to another country, is laughable.
And China? Have we forgotten what happened to Hong Kong less than a decade ago already? Are we not aware of the current circumstances in Xinjiang and Tibet? Of the threats towards Taiwan, including aggressive incursions in their airspace?
I’m not generally a fan of memes that imply an equivalence between the auth-left and auth-right, because they tend to be used by “enlightened centrists” to push horseshoe theory and over-simplify an already over-simplified political compass.
…but the “but I wish it had been” got me pretty good. They really do be like that.
Also, it’s “so forth”, not “so fourth”.
Left Russia several years ago because i didn’t want to support the aggressive war in Ukraine.
How is it going after relocating?
It’s good, thanks. I moved to Finland, very nice country. My wife, pets and some of my friends moved with me, and I found new friends in the company I work
If only they would fight against each other
I feel your frustration. I especially hate the needlessly confrontational ones. I recently started trying to be less confrontational my self, because I finally realized that it’s fruitless and only leaves me distressed, but somehow tankies still blow up at me.
Recently in a comment under a youtube video I dared to vaguely imply that china is flawed and I got people telling me that “china isn’t a dictatorship” and that I should read “neutral news sources” (as if such a thing exists). I didn’t even say anything! Like bloody hell… I barely mentioned it in passing. But I guess implying any flaw is triggering…
Yeah, i see and usually restrain myself from confrontations in public spaces, but that was a discord server of a streamer i watch for more than 5 years. Thankfully, they reached me out to me later, apologized for that mod’s behaviour, and expressed support to me and my position from the whole mods team. So, at least i don’t feel so disappointed anymore
I wonder if it’s a symptom of the great age of misinformation, in such that, people can’t trust anything they read, and therefore create or believe propaganda, that was previously discarded. Like how there’s a whole heap of people believing the 50’s propaganda when they had to tell all the women who were working “man” jobs, earning their own money and doing all the things that they were actually happier just slave labouring at home with no rights to vote or have a bank account etc, and they put out all this propaganda in the adds etc at the time to shove women back in the box, and they were all depressed af, and had to take drugs to get through the misery of their day, and all that propaganda was discarded, eventually, but this big wave of a certain type of person is cherry picking mystical meaning from that era. You know. Like that.
The “left-right” spectrum is too vague to be of any real use.
“leftist unity” is just “trickle down economics” for Marxists.
That’s why a political compass looks like this
political compass is honestly worse than a vague idea of left and right to me.
forcing a human beings complex and ever-changing moral and political thought into a literal box, i feel, has done irreparable damage to today’s modern understanding of ideology. at least everyone understands the nuance between what “left” and “right” can be due to it being so muddy.
I dislike the political compass because it lends too much to right-wing libertarianism. Right-wing libertarianism moves the boot from the state to corporations.
right? 3 quarters of this are different kinds of authoritarian
