• TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPM
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      3 months ago

      Nah, they’re mostly a continuation of feudal knights who protected the property of their lords. Police simply crowdfund that protection of property to all land owners and the government. They’re necessary to a capitalist state, not to reigning in abuse. The people who do the most harm are often protected by the police rather than punished. The few good things police occasionally do are usually not their main job and would be better handled by nonviolent workers.

      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 months ago

        You need some law enforcement. There will always be violent criminals, no matter what form of society you want. They’re poisonous and awful, and the system should be burned to the ground---- but we will need a replacement.

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          3 months ago

          If you mean protecting people who do not protect themselves, yes that is necessary. At the same time, most violent crime isn’t simply inherently violent people, but directly related to businesses outside of the legal system. Organized crime is often the leading cause of violent crime, and when you consider that organized crime thrives in communities impoverished by legal companies and systemic disparities, business really is the root of most problems.

          When it comes to interpersonal disputes, community members stepping up could be as effective as cops. For standing up to business ills, the situation is more complicated.

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            3 months ago

            When it comes to interpersonal disputes, community members stepping up could be as effective as cops.

            …mob justice is rarely ever a good idea, and best avoided if at all possible, excluding cases where the legal systems have blatantly failed. I feel that may fly too close to that, depending on how it’s organized.

            The people bring the violence to organized crime as much as the organized crime brings the violence to people.