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This post isn’t shit. Where is my refund?
my dads idea: Ban cars inside cities have giant parking houses around the cities public transport - free - that comes by every 5-10 minutes
Look up Pontevedra in spain.
This one is actually a pretty good idea. Eventually we get rid of the parking garages too and cover everything with railways.
5-10 minutes is forever in some places
5 minutes and small delays would mean that some busses are a few seconds apart
I live in the Seattle area and while this stuff isn’t free it’s under $10 to park and ride both ways. Trains run every 7 minutes and the train will take you maybe five minutes extra if there’s no traffic. If you’re coming or going from the stadiums it’s faster and cheaper than driving to one of the lots close to them. Trains are pretty clean too, it’s a pretty great rail line
We haven’t banned cars, but my city did put a park-and-ride lot at each end of its one BRT line. It’s pretty great, now the haters get to complain that BRT is a failure because nobody rides it, AND that it’s useless because those lots are always full.
“Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded” - Yogi Bera
I want a teleportation device that either gets me to my destination instantly or deletes me from existence.
A catapult on every rooftop!
Best we can do is make everything more gas dependent by canceling windmill projects.
Saw this yesterday, instead of Atlanta building a new airport that could take away Delta’s dominance, the CEO suggests vertibirds for shuttling people to the airport. This totally ignores the fact that the public transit MARTA goes directly to the airport
um doesn’t this already exist in Europe and Japan?
Yes.
Barcelona resident here. I pay 22€ for an unlimited month transit pass (that’s a discounted price that will probably go up). I can ride any underground, bus or commuter train inside the metropolitan area. I own a car to go outside the urban zone but I barely use it.
When I have to use my car in town (because I’m going to buy something that cannot be carried easily otherwise) I recall how much driving in the city sucks.
I’m actually thinking about sellling my car and using a rental service if I want to take a road trip.
Idk what the other dude is talking about. It definitely exists some places.
Source: live in Copenhagen, don’t own a car.
No. Not really.
Cars are very common and walkable cities have been largely accommodated for the car.
Live in Stockholm, don’t have a car, can get around fine. Still want a car, but not for the city.
55% of trips in Sweden are cars. I’d call that the default.
Sweden is a huge country, I drove 6 hours down to Malmö recently, and lots of people live on the outskirts where train and bus services are slower and more spotty. But if you live in the cities here, you don’t need a car.
I went a year without driving in America ; its aweful
Yeah, I don’t know how anyone survives there without one.
that makes sense bc I did die
RIP in peace 🪦
I came back
While I agree in principle with the OP, I feel I must point out that that wouldn’t completely make cars unnecessary. There are still remote or sparsely populated areas (a lot actually in my country) where comprehensive public transport is impractical or next to impossible. I’d say we have use for both. Especially so if self driving means being able to summon a car when you need one without needing to own one. Or would that actually count as public transport then…?
comprehensive public transport is impractical or next to impossible
That’s how we used to do transit before cars were invented. The US had a railway line to even the most remote farms. USSR had amazing railways that interconnected almost everything despite being the biggest country on earth by a wide margin.
Generally the trick is to build densely populated walkable towns where you don’t need a car for daily activities, and connect them with railways. In that case, it doesn’t matter what the overall population density is.
Even for sparsely populated land, if you can build an asphalt road wider than 2 lanes, chances are you can also build a small commuter railway there eventually. It would also be cheaper overall, if you consider externalities like everyone having to own a car, car crashes being a lot more common than rail crashes, and of course CO₂ emissions and the climate change that comes along with them. And that’s besides the socioeconomic benefits of letting everyone have a way to travel, rather than only those with financial means to maintain a car and the ability to drive.
Cars are sometimes necessary, but it’s like 1% of what they are used for currently.
Yeah, you’re never gonna live without trucks and vans either, you need those for the last few kilometres of the logistics chain. Still, we should reduce the remaining cars by half at least, and I’m saying that sitting in a train that goes so frequently that I don’t have to check a schedule.
Yeah, well said. I agree with you on that, sometimes cars are still needed
Don’t say “cars as default”, say “built around people, not cars”
I want people to keep some communities light hearted
Yeah i dont know if this fits shitpost
You’re not thinking car-first. You need neuralink to fix that. /s
Portland’s pretty good about this. The whole city is laid out in a pretty uniform grid, and the busses and trains come frequently and cover a really wide area. Getting around the city is a piece of cake, and the transit pass works the exact same regardless of which vehicle type you ride.
It’s not perfect, but it’s pretty damn close!
Sorry, best we can do in the U.S. is fuck all.
So, London basically?
Russian train
That’s a Velaro
The Russian version of it though
I think self driving cars will help tbh. Only way it will happen.
Less parking. Solves last mile problem.
How will that help? By some studies, about 30% of traffic on downtown city streets is drivers circulating looking for street parking. With self-driving cars, they could cause congestion by circulating all day instead of parking.
If you get the train downtown then you are already downtown. You don’t need a self driving car at all. You need a way to get from your house to the train station by self driving car.
Or you have a lot more demand responsive transport. Everyone gets on a mini bus in the suburbs and you all get dropped off at the stores or locations you want one by one.
I’ve seen stuff about sharing them so there’s less cars parked and people just get dropped off and it takes the next person. But taxis already exist and haven’t solved the problem so I don’t think self driving cars are the answer there.
From the passenger’s perspective, a taxi and a self-driving car are functionally identical. But back when Uber, Lyft, and the rest were offering cheap rides subsidized by VC money, all that happened was that they made traffic congestion slightly, but measurably, worse. People didn’t give up private cars in large numbers, though.
If we get self-driving cars, then people’s private cars can add to the problem by cruising around empty most of the time, and if they’re not in them, there’s nobody to be bothered by traffic delays. The only way to achieve the dream of eliminating gridlock would be to ban private cars. And if that were politically feasible, why not just do it now with transit?
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