As people with colostomy bags will show you (if you ask nicely) protein and fat do not make it into the intestines, and do not cause flatulence.
skews the microbiome.
This is true, the microbiome is highly adjustable, and will tailor itself to whatever food your consuming.
I have significant concerns about the protein diet fad and the increase of colon cancer in younger people.
If your talking about carnivore, please note that protein does not go up on a meat based diet, its the fat that increases. Take the standard macros (15% protein roughly) and replace the carbohydrates with fats.
Try cumin and other herbs like savory if you suffer from flatulence. If you don’t like cumin, eat it every day and increase the amount over time. The distinct flavor will decrease as your taste adapts to it.
Visceral fat is usually caused by protein deficiency, adding protein to the diet without any other changes to lifestyle or diet causes a reduction in visceral fat.
There’s numerous studies if you bothered to search. These off the top of the first search engine I try:
Huang G, Pencina K, Li Z, Apovian CM, Travison TG, Storer TW, Gagliano-Jucá T, Basaria S, Bhasin S. Effect of Protein Intake on Visceral Abdominal Fat and Metabolic Biomarkers in Older Men With Functional Limitations: Results From a Randomized Clinical Trial. J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci. 2021 Jan 8;76(6):1084–1089. doi: 10.1093/gerona/glab007. PMID: 33417663; PMCID: PMC8140050.
Merchant AT, Anand SS, Vuksan V, Jacobs R, Davis B, Teo K, Yusuf S; SHARE and SHARE-AP Investigators. Protein Intake Is Inversely Associated with Abdominal Obesity in a Multi-Ethnic Population. J Nutr. 2005 May;135(5):1196-1201. doi: 10.1093/jn/135.5.1196. PMID: 15867303.
CK, Cooper BC, Toth MJ, Gastaldelli A, Arabshahi A, Barnes S. Effect of a daily supplement of soy protein on body composition and insulin secretion in postmenopausal women. Fertility and Sterility. 2007 Dec;88(6):1609–1617. doi: 10.1016/j.fertnstert.2007.01.061. PMID: 17412329.
Christie DR, Grant J, Darnell BE, Chapman VR, Gastaldelli A, Sites CK. Metabolic effects of soy supplementation in postmenopausal white and African American women: a randomized, placebo-controlled trial. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology. 2010 May 1;203(2):153.e1–153.e9. doi: 10.1016/j.ajog.2010.02.058. PMID: 20435291.
It’s very well established that increased protein intake reduces abdominal fat in pretty much every population
I’m curious about this, can you recommend a study you have actually read yourself?
To the best of my reading visceral fat is directly reduced by reducing insulin levels. Perhaps increased protein intake is associated with reduced carbohydrate intake, which can reduce elevated insulin levels? I’d love to see a study that separates out protein and carbohydrate consumption as variables.
As far as a mechanism goes, my understanding is that high quality complete protein stimulates metabolic changes in gut microbiota. Not changes in species so much or diversity, but activating amino acid regulated pathways and metabolism. Diet quality is typically poor in those with high visceral fat, even if from a very high level perspective macro nutrient targets are hit.
This is quite interesting because as far as I understand, increasing protein intake increases insulin release.
Maybe good protein, though protein shakes are often going to come with extra calories and junk that most people don’t need to add to their diet anyways.
Especially if they’re using a milk base or adding chocolate/etc to make tastier shakes. It’s pretty damn easy to drink a surprising amount of calories. Milk can be more calories than beer by volume, for example.
Protein makes you sated much more quickly than carbs, so a protein rich diet compliments losing weight.
also causes flatulence, lower gut mobility, skews the microbiome.
I have significant concerns about the protein diet fad and the increase of colon cancer in younger people.
Sugar should be avoided, but a balanced diet is important.
As people with colostomy bags will show you (if you ask nicely) protein and fat do not make it into the intestines, and do not cause flatulence.
This is true, the microbiome is highly adjustable, and will tailor itself to whatever food your consuming.
If your talking about carnivore, please note that protein does not go up on a meat based diet, its the fat that increases. Take the standard macros (15% protein roughly) and replace the carbohydrates with fats.
As far as cancer goes, there is no credible link between protein consumption and cancer. https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/red-meat#cancer
Try cumin and other herbs like savory if you suffer from flatulence. If you don’t like cumin, eat it every day and increase the amount over time. The distinct flavor will decrease as your taste adapts to it.
Visceral fat is usually caused by protein deficiency, adding protein to the diet without any other changes to lifestyle or diet causes a reduction in visceral fat.
in cases of severe malnourishment.
I’m so done with the brah science in this thread.
No…
There’s numerous studies if you bothered to search. These off the top of the first search engine I try:
It’s very well established that increased protein intake reduces abdominal fat in pretty much every population
I’m curious about this, can you recommend a study you have actually read yourself?
To the best of my reading visceral fat is directly reduced by reducing insulin levels. Perhaps increased protein intake is associated with reduced carbohydrate intake, which can reduce elevated insulin levels? I’d love to see a study that separates out protein and carbohydrate consumption as variables.
As far as a mechanism goes, my understanding is that high quality complete protein stimulates metabolic changes in gut microbiota. Not changes in species so much or diversity, but activating amino acid regulated pathways and metabolism. Diet quality is typically poor in those with high visceral fat, even if from a very high level perspective macro nutrient targets are hit.
This is quite interesting because as far as I understand, increasing protein intake increases insulin release.
This paper from nature is interesting and one of the few that go into looking at potential mechanisms: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-94916-9
Maybe good protein, though protein shakes are often going to come with extra calories and junk that most people don’t need to add to their diet anyways.
Especially if they’re using a milk base or adding chocolate/etc to make tastier shakes. It’s pretty damn easy to drink a surprising amount of calories. Milk can be more calories than beer by volume, for example.