• Amon@lemmy.world
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    Why are we fighting culture wars when the real enemy is Reddit and non-free social media?

    This infighting seems unproductive and frankly a waste of time.

    EDIT: damn

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      3 months ago

      Tell this the powertripping bastards at lemmy.ml, trying to censor everything that is not 100% aligned with their extremist views.

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            Well, China is a “beacon of prosperity” by any objective measure. I’ve not seen anyone there make the other claims. Though they do debunk a lot of the anti-Russia and anti-China propaganda, they back it up with facts.

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              It’s a beacon of prosperity when there are anti suicide nets at foxcon? Or like the 996? Run by a dictator, also committing genocide isn’t very prosperous. My interactions have been " if it’s western propaganda it’s entirely false, but Chinese or Russian propaganda is entirely true"

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                  800 million people out of poverty is a stretch but if you wanted to make that claim, it’s because the west spent so much money to get goods from China. And the ethnic cleansing of the Uyghurs

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        nope, it would be center-right wing with a dash of "further right, but not maga right as a whole. is representative of america, ultra-left wing is a very small minority often with a younger population that isnt cognizant of history of "left leaning governments’, decades of anti-communist propaganda see to that a left leaning party never has power.

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    Every time I see an anti-.ml meme I wonder, why are people so worried about people seeing .ml content? If they’re jerks, wouldn’t you want people to stumble into .ml and find out?

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      No one “worries” about seeing it. It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “capitalism causes all problems in the universe” or the rest of their standard “I’m 19 and this is deep” tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It’s exhausting and pointless. No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism, so it’s just of a constant eye-roll when “I’m an independent thinker! Here’s the same thing we all say!” happens.

      Edit: OOOh, seems like I struck a nerve, eh?

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        You clearly haven’t engaged with anything, and lol @ “independent thinker” from someone defending the dominant economic and political system, which fyi is exactly what you’re doing

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            It absolutely is about the economic system, and the “china glazing” is a direct response to US propaganda

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              So your response to people glazing the usa is glazing an authorization country. And you wonder why people don’t like ML?

              No, it’s not about the economic system. Christ knows communists aren’t in short supply on lemmy, if that was true you’d see more support. Don’t kid yourself.

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                No, people are attacking China with misinformation created and distributed by the US specifically because their economic system represents an existential threat to our own

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      Lemmy.ml is the devil tempting good leftists to sin. They pretend to be leftists, but the admins are transphobic. It’s a trap designed to trick leftists into supporting transphobia. That way they won’t get to go to heaven.

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        I was made a moderator here after calling out cis shitters being transphobic in our trans comm; the only admin we have beef with is Nutomic, the rest have been fine.

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          Have you considered that you defending an instance that defends a transphobe means you are defending a transphobe? Because Jesus Christ (transmasculine, He/Him) would have considered that if He were in your position, and He wouldn’t do it. It’s a sin.

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            I’ll happily go to hell if the alternative is ceding a space I’m in to transphobes without a fight tyvm

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              Well no, both of those things are supporting transphobes, the only difference is whether you’re supporting Nutomic’s transphobia or someone else’s. The true alternative is to quit lemmy.ml and not be a transphobe supporter at all.

              I guess your argument is the best thing to do is to slowly reform the space by working under a transphobe, like that’s ever worked in history.

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                is your actual position that trans people should give transphobes free reign in any and every space they want, because to contest that would be actually supporting them?

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                  My actual position is that Dessalines should tell Nutomic to either stop being a transphobe or get lost. And since Dessalines won’t do either, lemmy.ml is a lost cause and should be defederated by every trans-respecting instance until it’s stuck in its own little transphobic bubble with lemmygrad and hexbear. The rest of us get on with our lives and slowly move over to Piefed like Ada is doing with her community. Eventually lemmy.ml is about as influential as Truth Social or Raddle or Digg and Nutomic dies at the ripe old age of 90, having learned nothing and lost all relevance. In the intervening decades a worldwide communist revolution has destroyed capitalism, so Nutomic is entitled to free healthcare in his battle with cancer/parkinsons/dementia, because I support liberty and equality for all, even wankers.

                  That’s what I think we should do.