I’ve never understand why people always complain about jury duty in particular. I’ve never been called, but I think it sounds like an interesting experience.
if you are willing to sit a juror pool for like several days straight, where they spends hours questioning each juror of why they can and cannot serve. its really annoying and time consuming, and people have jobs. most of the people in my area can afford to take time off, majority of the juror pool i was in was tech/programmer. its very anxiety inducing if you dont want to be there.
Wait, so you have to take vacation days for jury duty? Your employer doesn’t have to give you leave? That’s fucked up lol. Every time I think the US couldn’t be more fucked than it already is, I get proven wrong lol.
yes and no, it really depends on the EMPLOYER if they want to pay you for it, they allow you to be on JD, but they dont have to pay you. and i read in other states, thier employer may require the “pitiful jury duty pay” as compensation for time off. if you are a federal/city, state worker, either UPS/USPS you are out of luck, they are more likely to choose these jurors because they know they will allow JD for the long haul for these people.
because they choose 12jurors, 6 alternates because they are much easily swayed to go in one decision or another by prosecutoers, defense attorneys. thats why they rarely choose people in the courst system themselves , or scientists some times. thats why they choose BUmpkins to be jurors. people like rittenhouse got off, because they likely chose jurors that are likely pushovers, or wont speak up.
and some employers require the jury duty pay, if you want your full 8hr shift to be paid. it really isnt fair to force employers to pay the jurors thier full usual hours. its the city and state that should pay thier full wage amount for that day. but they dont, they know they cant get by with paying less than 15$/day.
In most (maybe all) states, you do get paid by the state, but it is something hilariously low. In my state it is $20 a day I believe, which is not much above the minimum hourly wage for my area.
ours is 15/day if you are chosen, ive heard people its as low as 5$, and a small pittance for gas/travel expenses. federal court is rarer but they can pay up to 40$/day in some cases.
The assholes in my city don’t even pay you enough to cover parking in the local parking garages they fucking recommend you use, let alone gas or meal expenses, for the day.
Mostly it’s money related. Some people literally cannot afford to attend jury duty because of how little compensation there is for their time; like in my area, if it takes two weeks you get compensated $4.75 an hour compared to a full time job which is $13.50 below minimum wage ($18.25).
I also think it would be cool and would like to attend, but then I wouldn’t be able to pay rent if it goes on too long.
i sat in one last sept, it was very boring and very annoying if you a job. basically the 1st 2 days is roll call like 200+people, and they may or may not take "excuses’ to be excluded from jd. if you are selected you have to sit in a courtroom usually 8am sharp and then sit there for 7+hrs listening to peoples “biases” of why they can or cannot be in the jury(with breaks). they will sus you out if you try the JD nullfication tactic, and they might end up choosing you. its incredibally annoying. this went on for 3-4 days, because people were trying to get out of jury duty( they have to vet every single person they call to the stand. its usually they choose 12 main jurors and 3-6 alternates, the only ones that usually are excused are people who are old(70+), have a disability, or thier jobs require so much time commiment they cant afford to be jury duty. almost everyone in my Jury pool were in tech, so mostly can afford to have time off, only a few one cant speak or understand English clearly(chinese immigrant), one is DEAF or very hearing impaired.lawyers, LEOs are also excluded mostly.
then they go through biases like someone is too emotional, or some is a former lawyer from another country (germany) which she gave the reason why a jury is inefficient, she was excused. 1 chick tried her hardest of being A SJW(organizing/prostesting,etc).
some people cant afford to be in a jury because of money. In a HCOL thats less likely.
Yeah you get to sit in a lobby for 3 hours, then the judge calls you in to tell you to be back in an hour after lunch. The you come back and sit a few more hours until they call you back in to tell you what time to be back the next day
I wouldn’t mind doing it. I was actually summoned twice in a two year period, but my stupid ADHD ass neglected to show up because I was really bad at time management back then. They have not summoned me since :(.
I was exempt from jury duty while serving in the US military, but at one particular base I was stationed at, they put me on a list of potential jury members for any military trials held in the area.
My boss got selected to sit in on a trial, but I never got called. He was super excited about it. He said it was a fascinating case and he couldn’t wait to spill the details once the trial concluded.
To this day, I’ve never been called on. I kinda hope it happens one day. I’m retired now and have nothing better to do.
they are too smart for that, they will keep you in the jury as long as they want just for doing that, or choose you anyways. you have to come up with creative ways of"biases". thats what some of the people did when i sat on a jury in the stands did. they were overexaggerating thier biases, and creating “Stories”
I’ve never understand why people always complain about jury duty in particular. I’ve never been called, but I think it sounds like an interesting experience.
It’s because they don’t value your time.
if you are willing to sit a juror pool for like several days straight, where they spends hours questioning each juror of why they can and cannot serve. its really annoying and time consuming, and people have jobs. most of the people in my area can afford to take time off, majority of the juror pool i was in was tech/programmer. its very anxiety inducing if you dont want to be there.
Wait, so you have to take vacation days for jury duty? Your employer doesn’t have to give you leave? That’s fucked up lol. Every time I think the US couldn’t be more fucked than it already is, I get proven wrong lol.
yes and no, it really depends on the EMPLOYER if they want to pay you for it, they allow you to be on JD, but they dont have to pay you. and i read in other states, thier employer may require the “pitiful jury duty pay” as compensation for time off. if you are a federal/city, state worker, either UPS/USPS you are out of luck, they are more likely to choose these jurors because they know they will allow JD for the long haul for these people.
You reminded me of an excellent quote: “the USA is not a first world country. It’s 50 third world countries in a trench coat”.
because they choose 12jurors, 6 alternates because they are much easily swayed to go in one decision or another by prosecutoers, defense attorneys. thats why they rarely choose people in the courst system themselves , or scientists some times. thats why they choose BUmpkins to be jurors. people like rittenhouse got off, because they likely chose jurors that are likely pushovers, or wont speak up.
Yeah do they not legally have to pay you for it in the us or something? That’s messed up
and some employers require the jury duty pay, if you want your full 8hr shift to be paid. it really isnt fair to force employers to pay the jurors thier full usual hours. its the city and state that should pay thier full wage amount for that day. but they dont, they know they cant get by with paying less than 15$/day.
In most (maybe all) states, you do get paid by the state, but it is something hilariously low. In my state it is $20 a day I believe, which is not much above the minimum hourly wage for my area.
ours is 15/day if you are chosen, ive heard people its as low as 5$, and a small pittance for gas/travel expenses. federal court is rarer but they can pay up to 40$/day in some cases.
The assholes in my city don’t even pay you enough to cover parking in the local parking garages they fucking recommend you use, let alone gas or meal expenses, for the day.
the cities make money from revenue of parking tickets, parking fees.
They pay you but it’s like enough for lunch.
Mostly it’s money related. Some people literally cannot afford to attend jury duty because of how little compensation there is for their time; like in my area, if it takes two weeks you get compensated $4.75 an hour compared to a full time job which is $13.50 below minimum wage ($18.25).
I also think it would be cool and would like to attend, but then I wouldn’t be able to pay rent if it goes on too long.
in the west its only 15/day, if you are on the juror pool. and it was 3-4 days, i make more than that in half of a shift.
Yup, here you get minimum wage which is only slightly over federal.
i sat in one last sept, it was very boring and very annoying if you a job. basically the 1st 2 days is roll call like 200+people, and they may or may not take "excuses’ to be excluded from jd. if you are selected you have to sit in a courtroom usually 8am sharp and then sit there for 7+hrs listening to peoples “biases” of why they can or cannot be in the jury(with breaks). they will sus you out if you try the JD nullfication tactic, and they might end up choosing you. its incredibally annoying. this went on for 3-4 days, because people were trying to get out of jury duty( they have to vet every single person they call to the stand. its usually they choose 12 main jurors and 3-6 alternates, the only ones that usually are excused are people who are old(70+), have a disability, or thier jobs require so much time commiment they cant afford to be jury duty. almost everyone in my Jury pool were in tech, so mostly can afford to have time off, only a few one cant speak or understand English clearly(chinese immigrant), one is DEAF or very hearing impaired.lawyers, LEOs are also excluded mostly.
then they go through biases like someone is too emotional, or some is a former lawyer from another country (germany) which she gave the reason why a jury is inefficient, she was excused. 1 chick tried her hardest of being A SJW(organizing/prostesting,etc).
some people cant afford to be in a jury because of money. In a HCOL thats less likely.
Yeah you get to sit in a lobby for 3 hours, then the judge calls you in to tell you to be back in an hour after lunch. The you come back and sit a few more hours until they call you back in to tell you what time to be back the next day
I served in a jury once on a criminal case, we found the defendant not guilty and got to see him be freed. That felt pretty nice to be a part of that.
Nice one! That’s like one of the optimal outcomes for jury duty.
I wouldn’t mind doing it. I was actually summoned twice in a two year period, but my stupid ADHD ass neglected to show up because I was really bad at time management back then. They have not summoned me since :(.
I was exempt from jury duty while serving in the US military, but at one particular base I was stationed at, they put me on a list of potential jury members for any military trials held in the area.
My boss got selected to sit in on a trial, but I never got called. He was super excited about it. He said it was a fascinating case and he couldn’t wait to spill the details once the trial concluded.
To this day, I’ve never been called on. I kinda hope it happens one day. I’m retired now and have nothing better to do.
was he chosen, from what ive gathered they usually reject people that are too excited for jury duty.
Also jury nullification exists, which can be fun.
they are too smart for that, they will keep you in the jury as long as they want just for doing that, or choose you anyways. you have to come up with creative ways of"biases". thats what some of the people did when i sat on a jury in the stands did. they were overexaggerating thier biases, and creating “Stories”