• errer@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    If the number of genders tends to infinity, the number of people of each gender tends to zero

      • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        1 month ago

        I’m nonbinary, it’s not enby erasure. It actually upsets me way more that some people seem to think this is enby erasure because idk the one saying “Abolish gender” looks feminine I guess? Because it you were to look at me on the street without context your first guess would literally be that I’m a cis man. So am I suddenly less valid of an enby because I’m 6’2" tall, built like a fridge cosplaying Bigfoot and have zero idea what I would even want out of transition?

        By the logic you’re employing here decrying enby erasure you would literally commit enby erasure. We don’t owe anyone androgyny.

        • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          1 month ago

          To my eyes, both characters appear to be drawn in an extremely feminine manner.

          If anybody wants to both present themselves and behave in an entirely binary manner, but feels differently on the inside, then that’s entirely valid … I think most of us have at least struggled with that at some point, if not for most of our lives.

          But that’s not something being shown or described in this comment. There are rafts of comics depicting binary people, so from that the comic seems at best to be lazy or perhaps thoughtless.

          • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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            1 month ago

            I don’t care how you perceive the characters. You are basically saying “They can’t be nonbinary, they’re too feminine,” which again means you’re literally by the same logic calling people like me invalid.

            Nonbinary people don’t owe you androgyny and nonbinary characters can look like literally anyone and be nonbinary. They can look androgynous, like the most femme cis woman, the manliest cis man, or any combination thereof.

            • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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              1 month ago

              So, to be clear, you’re saying that someone who is happy to present as their gender assigned at birth, behave like their gender assigned at birth, who doesn’t feel dysphoria, and is socialised as their gender assigned at birth can be non-binary?

              Why would I think that anyone owes me androgyny? I just think that if someone is shown as living a happy life in a specifically binary manner, they aren’t representative of enbies.

              • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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                1 month ago

                So, to be clear, you’re saying that someone who is happy to present as their gender assigned at birth, behave like their gender assigned at birth, who doesn’t feel dysphoria, and is socialised as their gender assigned at birth can be non-binary?

                Where are you getting all this info from? From the perspective of the comic, ignoring that it’s a meme comic, there’s no way to tell what gender either character was assigned at birth, let alone any of the other details. Either one could’ve been AMAB, and the second one is at least a former cutter based on the scars (the shoulder is a popular location because it doesn’t show when you wear a t-shirt). Was that from dysphoria? Who knows, they didn’t tell us. Edit: just went back and realized those are folds in the sleeve of their shirt, not scars. This image needs more pixels.

                From a broader perspective: …yes? To be considered a certain gender you only need to identify as that gender. There are no other requirements. You don’t need to act a certain way, look a certain way, or even have dysphoria. Is a trans woman who’s in the closet not a woman? If they identify as a woman, they’re a woman. If they identify as nonbinary, then they’re nonbinary.

                The dysphoria one is also a big one for me, so I’m gonna talk about it specifically just in case it helps someone who happens to read this: you don’t need to have dysphoria in order to be trans. You don’t. If you’re happy as your AGAB but feel like you’d be happier as another gender, then go ahead and transition. Or don’t. Or only go as far as makes you happy. Because at the end of the day, it’s about being comfortable in your own skin.

                So many trans people think “well, I didn’t have dysphoria as a kid so I can’t be trans” or some variation of that thought, only to transition and either find out that, yes, they did experience dysphoria and just couldn’t tell because it was their normal everyday experience, or experience the more important gender euphoria after they transition.