I wish I could be that picky lol, if I had to feel safe, understood, and appreciated I’d still be a virgin lmao. If I ever told a woman “no I want to feel safe, understood, and appreciated” I’d be called an incel. At best she’d get the ick and ghost me, at the most generous interpretation because “if I need that from her how am I going to provide it to her” (but I honestly think it’s because desiring “safety and understanding” isn’t “manly” and “appreciation” “what do you mean…patriarchy…women are the ones who aren’t appreciated…yadda yadda.” Sort of the same deal as the classic “I want a sensitive man who cries” and then the second you do she loses any semblance of respect for you as a person.)
I hear what you’re saying but I’d say that not all women are like that and these conversations are really meant for someone you’re prepared to have a deep commitment with, not necessarily early on in a relationship. There are a ton of toxic attachment patterns and cultural norms in our society that are challenging to navigate but these tend to matter less as a relationship evolves into a long term one.
Women aren’t capable of caring for and making their partners safe and appreciated??
Says the one assuming all intimacy issues are caused by male failure lmao. Wow your ass on outta here with that shit, “generalizations for me but not for thee.” What’s the line again, “If it doesn’t apply to you I wasn’t talking about you?”
The assumption in here is that all intimacy issues are caused by women refusing to give sex to men.
Almost like giving birth and raising a baby is an all-hands-on-deck situation and sex isn’t as much of an immediate need like sleep and eating and surviving are during that time.
Your assumption maybe, but the meme is lambasting men who complain about lack of sex from their wife when in reality their failure to help parenting is the cause, that’s not “assuming all intimacy issues are caused by women refusing to give sex to men,” it’s actually closer to the opposite (though the meme doesn’t say all either, it implies that it at least happens sometimes but not all.)
Many other commenters have also noted that not all physical intimacy is sex, it can be as simple as cuddling up on the couch vs sitting on the opposite side as far away as one can (literally an example pulled from another comment in this thread), and noted that it isn’t just “when baby” it can be a years long pattern even if you do everything right and have nothing to do with babby at all. One commenter even noted that it wasn’t her husband’s fault and he did his job but breastfeeding itself affected her libido. You are the one in here refusing to accept that anything beyond your preconceived notions could possibly be true, and that is why you’re being “mass downvoted,” not because of whatever victim fantasy you’ve concocted in your mind. I hope you get the help you need.
I wish I could be that picky lol, if I had to feel safe, understood, and appreciated I’d still be a virgin lmao. If I ever told a woman “no I want to feel safe, understood, and appreciated” I’d be called an incel. At best she’d get the ick and ghost me, at the most generous interpretation because “if I need that from her how am I going to provide it to her” (but I honestly think it’s because desiring “safety and understanding” isn’t “manly” and “appreciation” “what do you mean…patriarchy…women are the ones who aren’t appreciated…yadda yadda.” Sort of the same deal as the classic “I want a sensitive man who cries” and then the second you do she loses any semblance of respect for you as a person.)
I hear what you’re saying but I’d say that not all women are like that and these conversations are really meant for someone you’re prepared to have a deep commitment with, not necessarily early on in a relationship. There are a ton of toxic attachment patterns and cultural norms in our society that are challenging to navigate but these tend to matter less as a relationship evolves into a long term one.
Holy shit, you all were crying and downvoting en masse because “we are treating all men the same”.
What the fuck is this?
Women aren’t capable of caring for and making their partners safe and appreciated??
Wow. Wow wow wow.
Says the one assuming all intimacy issues are caused by male failure lmao. Wow your ass on outta here with that shit, “generalizations for me but not for thee.” What’s the line again, “If it doesn’t apply to you I wasn’t talking about you?”
The assumption in here is that all intimacy issues are caused by women refusing to give sex to men.
Almost like giving birth and raising a baby is an all-hands-on-deck situation and sex isn’t as much of an immediate need like sleep and eating and surviving are during that time.
Your assumption maybe, but the meme is lambasting men who complain about lack of sex from their wife when in reality their failure to help parenting is the cause, that’s not “assuming all intimacy issues are caused by women refusing to give sex to men,” it’s actually closer to the opposite (though the meme doesn’t say all either, it implies that it at least happens sometimes but not all.)
Many other commenters have also noted that not all physical intimacy is sex, it can be as simple as cuddling up on the couch vs sitting on the opposite side as far away as one can (literally an example pulled from another comment in this thread), and noted that it isn’t just “when baby” it can be a years long pattern even if you do everything right and have nothing to do with babby at all. One commenter even noted that it wasn’t her husband’s fault and he did his job but breastfeeding itself affected her libido. You are the one in here refusing to accept that anything beyond your preconceived notions could possibly be true, and that is why you’re being “mass downvoted,” not because of whatever victim fantasy you’ve concocted in your mind. I hope you get the help you need.
It’s not his job to take care of the baby so that he can get sex.
It’s his job to take care of the baby because he is a father. It’s entirely independent of his relationship with his wife and his sex life.