• Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      These aren’t opposites. Democracy is a system of governance, capitalism is a system of economics. A society can be both at the same time.

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        You cannot have real democracy when there is a ruling minority class, as in capitalism, simple as that.

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          Europe has figured it out so has New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Japan, and so on. In fact, only capitalist systems have ever produced genuine democracies. All the socialist examples in history were authoritarian governed by an unelected ruling elite.

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            Yeah yeah, European chauvinism yadda yadda

            “You don’t know? Chinese people liking their government means they’re a dictatorship for some reason, seeseepee!!!111!1!11!1! All factual data about China can be disregarded because I’m a racist prick who doesn’t conceive the idea that Chinese are free to speak their minds!!!”

            Shut up, boring-ass pro-landlord propagandist

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        Things don’t need to be opposites to affect each other in predictable ways.

        They are both decision making processes where different groups hold power over society’s resources. Democracy very much has economic power and Capitalism is very much about who gets to make certain decisions.

        They have what you might call… friction.

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          To be fair, any of the counties that attempted it had a coup enacted by fascist capitalist countries to prevent them from doing so.

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            4 days ago

            That’s just cope. The reality is that communism is fundamentally flawed to the point where failure was always going to be the inevitable outcome. That’s why despite a century of nonstop attempts across all cultures and lands, not a single attempt panned out well. They all either collapsed or reverted to some version of capitalism. The opposite never happened.

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          We can measure how democratic a country is by how much its actions favor the people rather than the capitalists. Most communist countries, particularly Cuba are more democratic than any country ruled by capital.