• floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    19 hours ago

    Sorry your feelings were hurt but the discussion is about AI datacenters with supposedly hundreds of thousands of Nvidia cards and very supposedly an electrical capacity of up to 9GW, no one cares about regular datacenters

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    22 hours ago

    This dumbass doesnt know about self hosting. No water pollution involved. Bonus points if you have solar.

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      21 hours ago

      If all compute power was self hosted it would be less efficient than running in datacenters.

      This dumbass thinks the power to his house works like magic

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        20 hours ago

        I specifically mentioned solar, and you think the world is better with all our data being controlled by capitalists? You think anything about what’s happening in data centers is “efficient”? lol ok.

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          As a datacenter technician, yes, having all the computers in one place is more efficient than it would be having one running in individual homes. The buildings are specifically designed to cool computers. Does your house have massive holes in the roof bringing in outside air during the winter?

          Solar is great. And we use it at the datacenter too. Lol.

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            “as a member of the system, I do believe the system is efficient”

            thats great one data center is using solar. How about you go make the rest of them do that so my electric bill goes back down.

            My homelab doesnt run that hot so I dont need holes in the roof during winter. It runs cooler than most gaming PCs. It also barely uses any power.

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              I mean, I’m someone who knows how it actually works, talking to a guy who thinks they know how it works.

              I wish I could do that my man.

              Can you elaborate on how my datacenter is polluting the water? We have not topped up the water cooling loop in six years.

              How is every person self hosting the services they love going to bring down your power bill?

              My homelab doesnt run that hot so I dont need holes in the roof during winter. It runs cooler than most gaming PCs. It also barely uses any power.

              Are you using all of the computer power effectively? Does it know how to dynamically allocate resources and move containers around to meet demand?

              I know what I’m doing and my homelab wastes a lot of power idling.

              I am sorry but you are way oversimplifying how this all works.

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                20 hours ago

                “it works this way at the one data center I work at so they must all work this way”

                third grade level thinking.

                https://www.sehn.org/sehn/2025/8/14/data-centers-and-the-water-crisis

                “Traditionally, data centers use evaporative cooling. This water is drawn from a groundwater aquifer or surface water source (lake, river, or stream). Water usage depends on both local climate conditions as well as the type of cooling system, but much of it rises as water vapor into the atmosphere, is carried away by prevailing winds, and becomes unavailable for reuse near its source

                Are you using all of the computer power effectively? Does it know how to dynamically allocate resources and move containers around to meet demand?

                You think I’m just fucking around and don’t understand container orchestration?

                I am sorry but you are way oversimplifying how this all works.

                No, I’m not. Data centers overcomplicate how the internet should have worked.

                keep editing and moving the goalpost though.

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                  If your homelab hosted every online resource you utilize, it would have a worse impact on the environment given it probably sits in a room temperature room and would therefore require more power than a room designed to be cold.

                  It seems like a drop in the bucket but if everyone hosted their own compute we would have serious environmental issues way before AI even existed.

                  You think people should be running a gigabit switch and dell poweredge for example in their own house?

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      23 hours ago

      Just because it is in a community with the name “shitpost” in it, doesn’t make it a shitpost. This is definitely not a shitpost.

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      23 hours ago

      Datacenters are just the popular thing to be offended by right now

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        22 hours ago

        It’s funny because it’s so dumb it’s funny. If you actually think the meme is unironically based, well that’s pretty stupid as well and therefore also funny.

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        Yeah just build them somewhere else and fuck over some less fortunate people. Can’t survive without my netflix.

        This is like advocating against animal cruelty then buying a steak at the grocery store.

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          What an absolutely amazing non-sequitur. It’s like there’s no place to logic on that comment!

          Are you for real trying to argue that people must be subjected to datacenters next to them because “people are hungry in Africa” or something like that?

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            I just find it ironic that the people whining about datacenters, seem to be the people who rely on datacenters the most.

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              You are equating internet infrastructure with the LLM mega-datacenters. You may be a neighbor to a datacenter that runs Netflix and never notice it.

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                I work at an AI datacenter and the houses 50 meters away just think it’s a generic square building

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            23 hours ago

            You mean a bunch of connected local movements…running in datacenters?