”You can’t tell me you’ve honestly been trying this long and are still a virgin?”
There’s the problem, right there. Women marinate in so much attention they just cannot understand how men can want relationships and sex, yet not be able to get it. Their brains melt down when you demonstrate how fundamentally and radically different the male experience is.
Men: if you want true understanding, you have a much better chance of achieving that with a male therapist.
Those aren’t the facts I go after. You should examine the stats that come out of things like dating apps and papers published by actual sociologists examining intergender relationships. It’s absolutely wild how those real-world facts run completely counter to what most women say.
Compare the average man with the average woman. In general,
the man will swipe right about 100 times before he can arrange a single coffee date.
out of five coffee dates, four will ghost him or otherwise fail to show up, leading to one successful date per thousand attempts.
the average woman who asks can get the same buy-in by men for every ≈5 swipes right
she will see only one ghosting or otherwise failing to follow through for every ≈25 such coffee dates.
just managing to leverage a date is a 20:1 advantage in the woman’s favour.
actually going on a date and not getting ghosted is about a 100:1 advantage in the woman’s favour
for an average man, the asymmetry of experience gets progressively more nightmarish the further along you progress.
when it comes to sexual experience, it is only the top-5% of men who have as much sexual experience as the bottom 60% of women. It is only the top 1% of men who have as much sexual experience as the top-35% of women.
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when men were presented with a scenario where a woman met 80% of his desired attributes, about ¾ said they would gladly entertain a relationship with her.
when a woman was presented with the flip proposition, where a man met 80% of her desired attributes, a similar ¾ of them said the exact opposite… that they would absolutely refuse to entertain a relationship with such a man due to his glaring inadequacies.
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when gauging women, men invariably graded them on an almost perfect bell curve, with half being above average in physical attractiveness, and half below.
when gauging men, women skewed the bell curve severely towards the bottom end, with slightly over 80% of men being “below average attractiveness”.
men’s bell curve of women shifted objectively based on how attractive the cohort of women were. A more beautiful group was shifted higher, no different than if they were just a part of a larger group.
women rated a more attractive group of men equally as harshly as a more random group, with 80% of them still being “below average attractiveness” regardless of how highly attractive they might be among the general population.
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individual exceptions exist, but in general women are still very loathe to marry a man that makes less than they do, or has a less socially prestigious job than she does. Women who make more than $100k almost never marry men who make less than they do, even when that difference is almost negligible.
when the woman makes $100k, the average husband’s wage is about $220k
In fact, early retirement by the man (and sometimes, even just retirement at the appropriate age) precipitates 100% of all retirement-triggered divorces… which are invariably woman-initiated.
Now, nothing is technically bad about any of this. It’s how evolution has shaped each sex to optimize their own sexual success.
Where things get ugly is when one side uses their own experience to whitewash the other side to either ignore issues, remain ignorant of those issues, or deny they even exist.
It is the therapist’s wildly hypocritical line - the last one quoted in the greentext - which so clearly demonstrated the prevailing attitudes of women. That because they get so much attention, the same must go for the average man as well.
I think the most women are smart enough to understand the differences between how men and women experience and express sexual desire, but maybe it sometimes grad school beats it out of people.
Like it’s truly bizarre that her first response was “Oh you’re asexual”, just immediately slapping an identity label on the experience rather than asking a simple probing question in the vein of “Why?”
I think the most women are smart enough to understand the differences between how men and women experience and express sexual desire, but maybe it sometimes grad school beats it out of people.
You are so far out in left field it isn’t even funny.
Inapplicable: already married for the last 20 years, together for 30 years.
I’m taken, not blind or ignorant. I have eyes to see what is happening out there, how much things have changed in the last three decades, how the relationships of others progress under modern conditions of Internet-unfettered hypergamy, and a functional mind with which to examine and critically analyze recorded statistics.
I can’t speak for rekabis but my wife has agreed with everything rekabis said, as some of her own friends and many coworkers are exactly like this.
As for my own experience: back when Facebook was still “the Facebook”, I was in a Human Sexuality class in college. The prof split up the men and women and then had each side list what they want in a partner to illustrate that men and women have different values, and I was utterly disgusted by both sides.
Men: I want a woman with little sexual experience who will be obedient and faithful (translated: doting kissless virgin who will suck me off whenever I want, and never talk to other men)
Women: I want an independent man who can take me places, help me get what I need, and who listens (translated: a man who lives on his own, owns a car, will buy me things, and who will not challenge my braindead assumptions about life as a man)
I was listening to both sides construct their ideal person and then realize they couldn’t say what they actually wanted to say, so they reworded it, hence the translations. That’s the day I decided I would go find an intelligent woman who actually wants to touch grass and start a family. ~15 years later I have never been more glad I made that call because it does not appear that things improved at all.
There’s the problem, right there. Women marinate in so much attention they just cannot understand how men can want relationships and sex, yet not be able to get it. Their brains melt down when you demonstrate how fundamentally and radically different the male experience is.
Men: if you want true understanding, you have a much better chance of achieving that with a male therapist.
Oh my friend, stereotyping is kinda ridiculous. You have no idea what other people know unless you talk to them.
While your underlying point isn’t a bad one, you’ve done a remarkably poor job of expressing it.
And I am astounded at the levels of cultivated ignorance needed to not have the point leap out and bodily slap people across the face.
Swing and a miss.
The problem here might be taking greentext screenshots as facts.
Those aren’t the facts I go after. You should examine the stats that come out of things like dating apps and papers published by actual sociologists examining intergender relationships. It’s absolutely wild how those real-world facts run completely counter to what most women say.
Could you show me some of those facts?
On mobile, no direct access to sources. But:
Compare the average man with the average woman. In general,
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Now, nothing is technically bad about any of this. It’s how evolution has shaped each sex to optimize their own sexual success.
Where things get ugly is when one side uses their own experience to whitewash the other side to either ignore issues, remain ignorant of those issues, or deny they even exist.
It is the therapist’s wildly hypocritical line - the last one quoted in the greentext - which so clearly demonstrated the prevailing attitudes of women. That because they get so much attention, the same must go for the average man as well.
And it most certainly does NOT.
Links to sources or didn’t happen
I think the most women are smart enough to understand the differences between how men and women experience and express sexual desire, but maybe it sometimes grad school beats it out of people.
Like it’s truly bizarre that her first response was “Oh you’re asexual”, just immediately slapping an identity label on the experience rather than asking a simple probing question in the vein of “Why?”
(Of course all green texts are fake and gay etc)
You are so far out in left field it isn’t even funny.
uhh
lol what?
bro seek help
For what? Being obsessed with reality? Putting evidence above ideology?
Sorry, no. I know how things are like out there, I’ve seen the data.
bwahaha… never thought to go out and experience life, no, you’re convinced you have it all figured out.
you’ve seen the data? the data?
GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE AND FORM RELATIONSHIPS YOU FUCKING TWATS, THERE ARE NO SHORT CUTS
Inapplicable: already married for the last 20 years, together for 30 years.
I’m taken, not blind or ignorant. I have eyes to see what is happening out there, how much things have changed in the last three decades, how the relationships of others progress under modern conditions of Internet-unfettered hypergamy, and a functional mind with which to examine and critically analyze recorded statistics.
taken, not blind or ignorant… wow…
do you express these views to your wife? How’s that go lol?
I can’t speak for rekabis but my wife has agreed with everything rekabis said, as some of her own friends and many coworkers are exactly like this.
As for my own experience: back when Facebook was still “the Facebook”, I was in a Human Sexuality class in college. The prof split up the men and women and then had each side list what they want in a partner to illustrate that men and women have different values, and I was utterly disgusted by both sides.
Men: I want a woman with little sexual experience who will be obedient and faithful (translated: doting kissless virgin who will suck me off whenever I want, and never talk to other men)
Women: I want an independent man who can take me places, help me get what I need, and who listens (translated: a man who lives on his own, owns a car, will buy me things, and who will not challenge my braindead assumptions about life as a man)
I was listening to both sides construct their ideal person and then realize they couldn’t say what they actually wanted to say, so they reworded it, hence the translations. That’s the day I decided I would go find an intelligent woman who actually wants to touch grass and start a family. ~15 years later I have never been more glad I made that call because it does not appear that things improved at all.
Yeah, as usual she’s the problem. lmao
The therapist, who is utterly unwilling to consider that a man’s reality is wildly different from her own experiences?
Yes, absolutely.