• lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Fake: Anon would read David Smail’s How To Survive Without Psychotherapy before going to therapy

    Straight: She then “suggest” hypnosis for his not getting laid, then over many sessions with post-hypnotic suggestions, turns him into a mindless obedient drone towards every women he meets, even when inconvenient.

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    I think I can see what went wrong here. The therapist is probably trying to disrupt their internal narrative but hasn’t established the baseline trust. Confrontation can be important in therapy. Sometimes, people can get the idea that their agency doesn’t matter, that they are just the sort of person who doesn’t get to (lose weight/have sex/get that job/etc.) and part of a therapist’s job can be to get the patient to break down that belief by questioning it, but if they haven’t established the necessary trust with the patient, it just comes across like a trollish comment on the internet, a random attack from a stranger who might not only not be doing it for your best interest but even to be hurtful for their own amusement.

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      it just comes across like a trollish comment on the internet, a random attack from a stranger who might not only not be doing it for your best interest but even to be hurtful for their own amusement.

      And Only time and repetition will be able to tell if it’s in good faith or bad faith.

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    she

    There’s the problem, right there. Women marinate in so much attention they just cannot understand how men can want relationships and sex, yet not be able to get it. Their brains melt down when you demonstrate how fundamentally and radically different the male experience is.

    Men: if you want true understanding, you have a much better chance of achieving that with a male therapist.

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        Those aren’t the facts I go after. You should examine the stats that come out of things like dating apps and papers published by actual sociologists examining intergender relationships. It’s absolutely wild how those real-world facts run completely counter to what most women say.

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      I think the most women are smart enough to understand the differences between how men and women experience and express sexual desire, but maybe it sometimes grad school beats it out of people.

      Like it’s truly bizarre that her first response was “Oh you’re asexual”, just immediately slapping an identity label on the experience rather than asking a simple probing question in the vein of “Why?”

      (Of course all green texts are fake and gay etc)

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        I think the most women are smart enough to understand the differences between how men and women experience and express sexual desire, but maybe it sometimes grad school beats it out of people.

        You are so far out in left field it isn’t even funny.

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        Yeah, as usual she’s the problem. lmao

        The therapist, who is utterly unwilling to consider that a man’s reality is wildly different from her own experiences?

        Yes, absolutely.

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      she

      There’s the problem, right there.

      uhh

      Women marinate in so much attention

      lol what?

      bro seek help

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        bro seek help

        For what? Being obsessed with reality? Putting evidence above ideology?

        Sorry, no. I know how things are like out there, I’ve seen the data.

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          Sorry, no. I know how things are like out there, I’ve seen the data.

          bwahaha… never thought to go out and experience life, no, you’re convinced you have it all figured out.

          you’ve seen the data? the data?

          GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE AND FORM RELATIONSHIPS YOU FUCKING TWATS, THERE ARE NO SHORT CUTS

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            GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE AND FORM RELATIONSHIPS

            Inapplicable: already married for the last 20 years, together for 30 years.

            I’m taken, not blind or ignorant. I have eyes to see what is happening out there, how much things have changed in the last three decades, how the relationships of others progress under modern conditions of Internet-unfettered hypergamy, and a functional mind with which to examine and critically analyze recorded statistics.

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    Nothing makes someone feel safe and heard like a therapist completely unable to comprehend that something considered socially embarrassing is possible. If you have a friend like this, heathygamergg on YouTube is making some amazing dating videos and thinks helping someone date is something simple every therapist should be able to do. Maybe not quickly but as he put it, a 5 year goal so you aren’t as desperate

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    Therapist are like toothpaste. You keep trying another one until you find one that you like.

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      had a therapist try to get me to realize Jesus is the answer to all of life’s problems. At the time I had been going to a christian church all my life. like yeah, OK Debbie, I like Jesus too, but praying it’s making me have less OCD behaviors I want need to start coping with or breaking so it stops ruining my life.

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    Therapists with specialties seem to dislike it when their client doesn’t fall under that umbrella. I had a therapist whose specialty was child sexual abuse. I told her I didn’t experience any and she defensively snapped “Are you sure? Maybe you don’t remember it!”. I did not stick with her for long.

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      I swear some therapists exist just to teach you to stick up for yourself by being lousy at their jobs.

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      What do you even supposed to say to that.

      I’m pretty sure it never happened but I guess I could have forgotten, I guess, if you want.

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        "are you sure it’s that you just weren’t a hot enough kid? "

        "how does it feel to know your parents/relatives didn’t find you sexually attractive enough to abuse you? "

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      To be fair, black-hole-ing a traumatic memory absolutely happens to people. That said, that reaction is absolutely not how to go about resurfacing that kind of thing. If anything it needs to be handled with way more care than self-reported trauma.

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        Nope. This was mostly a psychological fad in the 1980s that led to many ruined lives from false accusations. Even the Wikipedia page starts off by saying the phenomenon has been largely discredited. Many people still believe in it but the vast majority of cases of “repressed memory” cannot be independently proven outside of the patient and therapist and in many cases are actually contradicted by externally verifiable facts.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repressed_memory

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          aka all the 1980s/1990s lit on alien abduction was based on this crap and using ‘hypnosis’ to ‘reveal’ it.

          it makes for good story telling, which is why it became a staple of TV dramatizations.

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        Are you sure? Cause mostly I hear the idea of repressed memories being bullshit.

        See the Satanic Panic where a bunch of people suddenly “remembered” being forced to do Satanic Rituals at daycare

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          I have repressed memories, but that was intentional on my part and its not like it undoes the C-PTSD. Just means I don’t wake up in a cold sweat anymore like I did when I was 10, the memories are there and can come back with the right trigger but they are luckily rather scarce.

          I just wish I could do that to the embarrassing shit I’ve done over the years, and there’s one happening right now FUCK. It’s like I have a cursed version of Nenios ability to forget in Pathfinder wrath of the righteous.

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          I have very few memories of my dad being abusive to me, family has told me stories and I remember none of them but I know they happened.

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          It’s a thing. It’s because Traumatic™ memories are stored differently in your brain than normal bad memories. Essentially the part of your brain primarily responsible for digging up memories doesn’t have the connections it world normally use to call up the memory, but the connections within the sensations and experiences of the memory still exist. That’s why a person can “unlock” these memories.

          You have to be super careful trying to dig these things out though, because it is absolutely possible to accidentally lead a person into false memories.

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    This is obviously fake and gay™, but PSA: if something similar happens to you IRL, it’s not therapy being useless, it’s therapist being an asshole and genuinely harmful to their patients.

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      The problem is you don’t know if your therapist might be an asshole before speaking to them.

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        You just look for a new one then right? I dunno how it works in other places around the world but we don’t have to sign up for an annual contract or anything here in Japan.

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          In Germany, it’s a nightmare to get a therapist in the first place. I called every number available to me, each of them was packed to the brim. Even the waiting list was full. Save for one, who I was able to at least talk to, but she didn’t reach out to me in almost a year now.

          So basically, you need to have insane luck to get therapy. Hearing some people jump from therapist to therapist just like that sounds almost like an utopia.

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          Generally speaking people who need mental health help are going to be more easily discouraged by a negative interaction than the general population even if they can afford therapy in the first place. In the US at least there’s also a shortage of therapists, meaning you might have to wait a long time to see anyone at all. And in my experience there are a lot more bad therapists than good ones (though assholes of this level are probably rare).

          Honestly if it were me I’d just save myself the trouble, read a book on CBT and get some antidepressants. But that doesn’t work for everyone.

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        Well, the term got created by people who were using it to describe themselves as if it were a disability and they needed some kind of special treatment to solve their “problem”. Naturally this also had an overlap with the then-trending “Pick-Up Artist” community right from the start. Or incel forums which were an insane crab bucket of woman-hating basement dwellers. I don’t even mean like just rude to women, I mean hate and fear.

        Needless to say being associated with this group in any way was embarrassing and it quickly became the butt of jokes. It quickly became an insult, though I don’t think it’s exactly fair to apply to people who just are virgins rather than self - described incels who are a member of that community.

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          This is like 1/3 the reason I think we should legalize sex work. There’s some percentage of people who might have sex finally, and realize “Yes that’s fun but maybe I shouldn’t shape my whole life around it” and go on to form hobbies and interests that will make them more successful in life and in love.

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          You might want to check your sources. Most people associate it with 4chan and the like but the term was coined in the 90s by a woman who started a support group for people who had trouble connecting with others, herself included.

          But what happened, predictably, is that people who were helped by the group left. No reason to go to incel meetings if you’ve found love. The people who never found a part er grew bitter and poisoned the whole thing.

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            I didn’t know it went that far back. I first heard about it around 2009, and it wasnt strictly associated with 4chan but it seemed for all the world like a new trend at the time.

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    be me, formerly professional-level troll on WoW forums

    my golden days are long gone, sadly

    lightbulb.wav

    what if I used all my experience and mastery to earn a living?

    gonna open a therapist office

    MFW I’m the worst therapist in the world and morons come and pay me to ask them why they are still virgins at 28

    they always go home sobbing

    [Insert some pepe]

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    I would have assumed they were religious before asexual. I’ve known many people who were virgins until they married in their late 20s or early 30s.