• Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
    242·
    2 days ago

    I’m always amused when people get enraged by scooters or bikes on the sidewalk but see nothing wrong in giving over the vast majority of public spaces to cars. Maybe your priorities might be ever so slightly askew here, brother/sister/other kind of sibling.

    • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
      17·
      2 days ago

      Here’s the thing, sidewalks have a speed limit to ensure the safety of everyone on them. Scooters or bikes can go faster, yet get to share that space. Me being mad at these things on sidewalks is me being mad at the city planers not giving them their own lane. Take it from the cars, give them a portal and make it in another dimension, idgaf, get them to a safe speed or away from people walking at 5kmh.

      • Alberat@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 days ago

        i agree but its worth it to take a car off the road. but yeah we should have speed limits and also the kids who go the wrong way on these things down one way streets should get fined or something

  • Pupsocks@lemmy.ca
    514·
    3 days ago

    I see this at events and festivals in our town all the time and I think it’s a massive win. Every scooter you see is likely one less car clogging up our streets or taking up a parking spot. Plus, a lot of these riders are out-of-towners bringing business to our local shops and helping the economy. It’s a shame there are so many NIMBYs hating on them when the trade-off is clearly better for the town’s bottom line. I’ll take a sidewalk with a few scooters over a gridlocked street any day. Plus they are super fun to ride.

    • MartianRecon@lemmus.orgEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      The scooters that clog up the sidewalks so people can’t use them?

      I ride a motorcycle, and the amount of times I’ve had some fucking moron on a scooter do something erratic and almost cause a crash is way more than cars.

      These things take up common spaces for people.

  • Strider@lemmy.world
    54·
    3 days ago

    In Germany this went reaaaallly awesome. First, some years back we had this with the shit bikes and it turned out to be a burden on all and there are massive bike dumps in China.

    Then a while later we allow the same with scooters.

    And as usual, some people with shit asshole behavior messing it up for everyone.

    The other thing I do not get in my head is using public space for business. If I can’t just do that companies should be forbidden too.

  • tomiant@piefed.socialEnglish
    14·
    2 days ago

    The free market will solve this problem and introduce three new problems that the free market will solve, contributing to the economy and growth. Forever.

    • balderdash@lemmy.zip
      1133·
      3 days ago

      False dichotomy. We can invest in public transit or even public bike/scooter rentals without allowing free reign for a private company to make profits. So we can all say “fuck cars” while simultaneously criticizing this e-waste as well.

    • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.worldOP
      104·
      3 days ago

      Agreed that cars are worse. If they were used primarily in bike lanes or on roads, I might believe they’re displacing cars. As it is, they’re primarily operated on sidewalks, effectively displacing pedestrian traffic and public transportation.

      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
        16·
        3 days ago

        They’re still displacing cars though? Most times I’ve used one, the alternative would have been taking my car, or a ride hailing app. I’m not taking one instead of a leisurely stroll, I’m taking one to get somewhere in a reasonable amount of time. Which walking was never going to accomplish.

  • TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com
    2·
    2 days ago

    hey, at least there was an attempt to keep them out of the middle of the sidewalk. (Don’t get me wrong, people leaving these things all over the place makes me crazy. We’ve got the damn electric scooters strewn around, too.)

    • Rose@slrpnk.net
      5·
      2 days ago

      In YouTube, Berm Peak channel folks bought an e-bike from a bankrupt app company, and went on to replace the control unit (plus sensors and the panel). Doable but not painless. Folks in the comments pointed out that a lot of the control units are reprogrammable, though - swap the SIM card and send new settings over SMS.

      Edit: Here’s the video

  • BanMe@lemmy.world
    142·
    3 days ago

    Unless they’re parked legally I just push them over, away from the sidewalk. And someone else has started as well! They do a decent job of coming to get them and put them somewhere allowed, all in a row. But the app requires you to take geostamped photos so they have proof their riders are just putting them in the middle of the sidewalk and walking away, and they don’t care.

    Flipside, they’re hella nice to grab to work if my car is down or if it’s just nice, and you could techically get across my entire city on them (stopping to swap I assume) so there’s a bit of democratization about them, but you’d be dumb to try that.

    They should be free if they’re going to be letting them leave tomorrow’s e-waste on our sidewalks. Maybe we could all pay for them together somehow idk

  • Seaguy05@lemmy.world
    151·
    3 days ago

    That kinda looks like a lot of cars not on the road. Sure, they should have designated drop off and pick up locations so you don’t get this mess. However, I think these lime bikes are providing an alternative option to solo drivers.

  • NotSteve_@piefed.caEnglish
    12·
    3 days ago

    We hage designated parking spots for these in Ottawa (Canada) that’s not limited to any one company and it works pretty well. I own an e-scooter but I’ll still often rent one if I dont want to park mine somewhere