• AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    Uhm… on top of not having my phone as my single payment method… where should I carry my id and driver’s license and medical card if not in the wallet? Should I carry them loose in the pocket? Or in my bag? Why? That’s so unconvenient and in the long term ends up damaging them.

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      17 hours ago

      I used to have a separate wallet, but i switched to this magnetic billfold thing that attaches to the back of my phone. It has enough room for an ID, credit card, debit card, and ond of those tile locators shaped like a credit card. Unfortunately these are horrible for user privacy, but it helps me find it if I lose it. In a pinch, it can also hold a small fold of cash.

      I almost never need the other things my old wallet held: insurance card, cash, other credit cards or gift cards…? What else did I even carry? I still have my old wallet at home and a small box I use to keep other ID cards, gift cards, etc.

      The magnetic thing also doubles for a hands-free phone stand if I want to set the phone down on a surface and watch tv while I’m eating lunch or something.

        • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone
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          16 hours ago

          Not necessarily. I can detach the phone wallet and leave it at home if i want.

          Also why would i lose my phone?

          If i misplace it at home, i can use find my to ring it. Can’t do that with a wallet.

          • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social
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            16 hours ago

            If you leave the wallet at home and lose the phone or it fails, then you’re still with no documents or cards. Just because it never happened to you doesn’t mean it can’t happen. I got in a car crash when I was returning home from my job and the phone got destroyed. I was able to be identified and my family located because I was carrying my wallet with ID, national security card and driver’s license. It’s an extreme case, but it can happen. It could also fall in a bad way and get damaged… I’ve seen too many phones (fortunately not mine) decide to fail their user in the worst moment to trust them exclusively.

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              16 hours ago

              This is why you always have to carry physical ID when you’re driving.

              Yes it has happened to me before. Just less often than losing my wallet when i used to have one that didn’t attach to the phone.

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                16 hours ago

                Yes. But you said that you can leave your wallet at home, hence leaving all your documents on it and carrying just your phone. You can get involved in a car crash without driving by being a passanger or simply someone walking on the street or biking.

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                  13 hours ago

                  You can also be hit by a meteorite.

                  But it’s unlikely, just as it is unlikely for most people to need physical cards.

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                    13 hours ago

                    Where do you live that you think you have the same odds of getting hit by a meteorite than of getting hit by a car while crossing the street?

                    Again, if your phone fails, how do you pay? How do you get identified? Without physical cards?

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        2 days ago

        I have a job that prohibits me from having a phone during working hours. It broke me of my dependency and now ive notice people getting irritated if i dont respond in minutes. Some days, they’ll just have to wait til 5 until I can check it again.

        But it’s also made me so much less attached. I regularly dont have it on me

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          1 day ago

          It’s my companion for the restroom. If you text me any other time, it’s going to be at least 5 minutes before I notice.

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          1 day ago

          I just hate being bothered. Thats pretty much my entire secret. When I first got a smartphone I cracked the screen chucking it in the next room because the damn thing wouldnt stop buzzing.

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        2 days ago

        Gen z here, I do use a wallet but many people use these sticky wallets that you slap on the back of your phone case to hold their cards.

        I don’t use them because 1. what if something slips out somehow and 2. damn you lose your phone and wallet in one.

        We don’t just leave shit hanging loose lol. We still have credit cards and drivers licenses to hold.

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          2 days ago

          i had one of those wallet phone cases and lost my phone. luckily it was at pride and whoever found it was not an asshole. tracked the phone and got it back, and thankfully didnt get my card used or stolen. i learned that day.

          (i only lost it that once. just my luck lol)

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          1 day ago

          I have one of these that has a tracker in it, so even if my phone dies, I can find both my wallet and my phone.

    • I usually get plastic sleeves with those, so yes, I just have a stack of cards in my pocket. At least I can fit it in together with a phone.

      Although I don’t know how to deal with coins. A jacket brings me extra pockets at least, which is why I can more or less only use cash during winter.
      Buying a wallet requires a choice. Searching for something right, and I am too lazy for that, so in the pocket it goes. Unfortunately, I often lack pockets. So if I am not traveling, I’ll just leave out my phone, so I can still fit in keys, cards, and a shopping bag. After all, I don’t need a phone most of the time anyway.

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              16 hours ago

              Everything fails. Do you know how many times I’ve forgotten my wallet various places? My phone just fails less.

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                  16 hours ago

                  How is it a bigger risk? Two things = two things to lose. Especially since the tile in the wallet is worse than find my in the phone.

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                    16 hours ago

                    Ever heard of the saying “never put all the eggs in the same basket”? It’s harder to lose two different things at the same time than to lose one. You might lose your wallet but keep your phone or viceversa, but it’s way more difficult to lose both at the same time if they are in separate pockets. Also, paper documents work even if they get damaged, a phone might not.

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          2 days ago

          My thought exactly. A decade or so ago my back was hurting and I decided to try a different style of wallet. Upgraded to a better one when I realized it works for me.

          Even if all I have in it are cards, id, and a single dollar bill, it’s still a wallet, just doesn’t leave me sitting at an angle. Yeah I had a Costanza wallet going on.

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          2 days ago

          I use one of those minimalist wallets, and I would describe it as a card holder with an elastic for cash.

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      2 days ago

      why would you even carry your id? the driver’s license is always in the car and the medical card is only needed for appointments at the doctor

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        I don’t know anyone who keeps their license in their car. Car culture is different in the us vs the eu, so maybe not as common over there, but sometimes if traveling with friends you will switch who drives. You should have your license on you if you’re driving. Additionally, it’s good to have your ID in case you forget your credit card somewhere and now you have a document with your picture on it that has a name that matches the card. I still get carded sometimes when buying alcohol or entering certain places so it’s not unusual to want to keep it on hand in case you want drinks or something.

        Also good to have your ID and insurance information in case of an emergency.

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        2 days ago

        Because a cop can stop you at any time, in any place for any reason and while (legally) you don’t need to show it - your day will suddenly get a whole lot worse if you don’t.

        And In the year of our Lord - you must also worry about ICE

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        1 day ago

        I might drive my car, I might drive my partner’s, I might drive my coworker’s car. I might collapse on the street and someone needs to figure out who I am from what I’m carrying. The license/id stays with me, not the vehicle.

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        2 days ago

        If you need to use a car that’s not yours, what would you do if the license is in the car?

        And why wouldn’t you carry your id with you? Not just police might want to stop and ask for it, but what if you get involved in an accident and have to get taken to the hospital while unconscious? How are they going to id you to know who to call? Just to say an example.

        Also, your medical card should always be with you in case of an emergency. You never know when will you need to be taken to the hospital and having it with you makes everything much easier.

        There’s no advantage that I can think of in not carrying your documents (or even copies of them) with you.