for everyone in this thread defending Afroman, saying that one picture with Trump was just a photo-op during his presidential run and doesn’t reflect his values, I’d urge you to read this article about a song he really wanted to sing at Trump rallies.
Afroman Explains His New Song: Hunter Got High
I think the takeaway here is that while he may not be a full blown facist, he’s willing to align with them to make a buck, which is kinda the main issue with the US gov right now.
Oh come on. There’s literally a joke quote in the article that he’ll rev share the song if Hunter Biden wanted to sue Afroman for defamation.
The insinuation that Afroman is even partially a fascist who wants to control other people’s behavior is ridiculous. Stop fucking up a good thing with this nonsense.
as I said, while he may not be a facist, he’s okay with accepting their money, which is also bad.
it’s also telling that he said he’s willing to “poke fun at both sides” but has, to my knowledge, yet to release anything poking fun at the alt right.
complicity isn’t compliance, but it sure is a bad look and a good reason not to support this nonsense.
Fuck anyone who dances for Trump, including Afroman. I’m glad he won, it was the only correct outcome, but he can fuck off.
What makes you think he does?
Don’t care. Anyone who is OK with a rapist pedophile isn’t OK.
downvotes? pretty sus
how tf is this a controversial take wtf
It’s still not an official verdict, so Trump unfortunately has a way of denial…
He’s officially a rapist, in court and on record, but he denies it anyway. Reality has little meaning to someone who has always been able to act like that.
Also, he was called out on it and explicitly denied the opportunity to condemn Trump. He’s either a MAGAt or at least loves their support. Fuck him.
Speaking to AllHipHop, Afroman clarified, ‘I’m not supporting him. I just met him. And yes, my campaign is full effect.’ He continued, ‘We were both at the Libertarian National Conference trying to get nominated and get their votes and we saw each other.'”
Context is important. This is from when Afroman ran for president.
https://allhiphop.com/news/afroman-addresses-patriotic-photo-opp-with-donald-trump/
I don’t think it is. I don’t know if any context can help when taking a photo op with a Nazi pedophile.
The list of people you are referring to is very, very, long. The internet is littered with pictures of respectable world leaders having a photo op before a meeting.
Some of that different because they’re forced to have to work him. Afroman was under no such force. So, yeah I guess context is still important, but given the context Afroman still isn’t absolved.
Yeah, that picture kills the appreciation of Afroman pretty much entirely - and I’m quite sad about that…
Afroman is a Windows 95 wallpaper set to Tile.
I’m not defending Afroman here, and 2024 you don’t get the “I didn’t know” pass, but, dudes a weed libertarian, not to be taken very seriously in the first place. Seems like he wasn’t very politically engaged before then.
Like Ron and Rand Paul, and broken clocks, and all libertarians, they are right twice a day, and they loooove crowing about it.
Let ‘em. The idea he’s promoting in this case is correct.
Cant we all just agree to hate cops and move on?
I’m glad he won this case, but he’s also a transphobe.
Why in the fuck are we praising patriotism here? It’s literally just religious-like devotion to a nation state, and basically result of nationalism
Without knowing either of those people, they might be just as patriotic and it’s equally as bad.
Wanting to improve your society is a form of patriotism.
America are the ones who have convinced everyone it’s the opposite
patriotism /pā′trē-ə-tĭz″əm/ noun
Love of and devotion to one’s country.
Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one’s country; the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which inspires one to serve one’s country.
Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one’s compatriots; the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which inspires one to serve one’s country.
Improving your country IS serving it. Non Americans do it all the time, the act just isn’t associated with the word because the US has a media industry built to hijack the meaning of things. Don’t make me start talking all pro-social and hope pilled, I’m not that guy anymore.
Exactly. That’s kind of the difference between being patriotic and nationalistic.
Yeah it’s so fucking backwards. I should be considered a patriot. I want Americans to have access to Healthcare and education. I want Americans to thrive and do great things. But no… Apparently the definition of patriotism over here is “I don’t care about other people, I only care about me, and also, kill brown people in other countries”
It could have been different. We’re in the wrong timeline
I’m patriotic in the sense that I want what is best for my countrymen. I want that to be done in a manner where both me and my country are ethical and productive members of our global society.
This has nothing to do with blind, religious-like devotion.
“Nationalism is an infantile disease, it is the measles of mankind.”
That being said, a lot of “normies” use patriotism as a stand-in for a certain set of beliefs. I don’t love it but the “Shining City on the Hill” is better than the Third Reich.
my dude, why do you not love where you live? are you not connected to it?
Why in the fuck are we praising patriotism here?
Because it’s a shitpost? We’re not on .ml, and this isn’t a politics thread.
Cept he a fascist.
How so?
He cozied up to Trump apparently fyi.
source?
Afroman Meets Donald Trump at the National Libertarian Convention | The American Beat | theamericanbeat.com https://share.google/W8MhULMyPgTHikKAW
Sorry for the stupid link
https://allhiphop.com/news/afroman-addresses-patriotic-photo-opp-with-donald-trump/
Speaking to AllHipHop, Afroman clarified, “I’m not supporting him. I just met him. And yes, my campaign is full effect.” He continued, “We were both at the Libertarian National Conference trying to get nominated and get their votes and we saw each other. We shook hands and talked about the Hunter Biden song and witch hunt raids. That was it.”
just to clarify, the photo alone in the link you sent does not provide sufficient evidence that Afroman has cozied up to Trump or supports Trump. As far as I can tell, so far, no evidence points to him supporting Trump.
That said, he is a Christian and says transphobic things, and he clearly competes with Trump for some of the same right-wing Libertarian voters, so it’s clear Afroman is at least in some right-wing spaces and supports some right-wing ideas, even if I don’t think you have sufficient evidence to say he’s close to Trump or a Trump supporter.
“Fuck the police” is literally why America was founded.
Disregard the establishment, surely; It was some time ago.
And plan/build a worse establishment.
As bad as things are in the current moment I’m not sure theres a strong case that living under a literal monarchy with zero Democratic representation and no meaningful civil liberties was better 😅
The handful of merits of the American establishment may be currently disintegrating under the wright of neo-fascism, but the establishment the founders built, explicitly flawed though it was/is, is definitely a better establishment than imperialist monarchical British rule
I think the millions of slaves in America would disagree when the British empire outlawed slavery 30 years earlier without having a civil war over the issue.
I am not the most knowledgeable on this subject but didnt they just do what amounts to slavery in their colonies like in India? They had colonial rule over India until like sometime in the 1900s didn’t they? Like they were an imperial nation, I’m not sure it really matters if the the exploitation and bloodshed happened within their own landmass, but perhaps I don’t know the history of england very well
I just checked and Ireland didn’t gain independence until 1949. I think the idea that the British empire and it’s monarchy is better than the democracy that extended its benefits only to white men is kind of a hard sell. Its the British empire 😅
Fighting for which empire was worse is pointless. The actually important thing is that people readsettlers.org .
Had never heard of it, do you have any context for its origin or how you’d described it? :)
Clickable link for anyone still seeing this thread: https://readsettlers.org/
This thread is my daily reminder that Lemmy is an online echo chamber that’s completely out of touch
Care to explain?
Fyi Afroman may be a Trump supporter.
All presidents are evil. Bill Clinton embargoed Iraq to shift the news cycle off of his blowjob, and it killed a million children who had dependence on imported medical supplies.
Trump isn’t special. Just one more cunt.
I watched his questioning. He was fucking awesome!
Ironically, this is a rare instance where the guy plastered with flags is indeed the patriot
psst…he likes Trump.
apparently he talked with Trump about legalization. he explicitly said “don’t take that photo as support” and will probably use it as an “i was on stage with Trump 'cause I got high” lyric in his song because honestly, it would explain a lot. ever do something because you think it’ll look funny later and then it turns out you just met hitler? because i have a couple photos from the 90s I can show NOBODY. afroman’s from another time.
i can’t remember when i saw afroman, because i was high, but it was a good show
sounds like a convenient excuse.
last time I was high I didn’t do anything unless I wanted to do it.
point is, if you don’t want your picture taken with a pedophile and convicted rapist, then maybe don’t pose with them? or, at the very least, don’t fucking smile like you’re having a great time.
my dude you are describing a nonfunctional high. afroman is high when he is out and about. there’s some kind of functional in there but i don’t want to read too much into a situation i don’t know much about.
still no excuse for associating with a known pedophile and convicted rapist.
How dare they associate with them that one time my dude do you hear yourself? I do not like defending Trump associates but like, draw a line. I have talked with some pretty awful people. Same calibur bad. Convicted same calibur bad. Where do you rank me for having done outreach so prisoners still get to feel human? Gran worked as a nurse in some of the worst prisons. Everyone deserves dignity and respect, full stop. No conditions or parameters.
you know. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you were just trying to be neutral. but honesty the fact that you believe that everyone can attain salvation in this context means are possibly one of three things.
- a “born again Christian”
- a troll
- a pedophile apologist
in either case I believe all those types of people are cancer upon society and deserve to be called out as the giant pieces of shit they are.
everyone is not deserving of dignity and respect. everyone is not deserving of love. there are some crimes against decency and humanity that just cannot be forgiven, ever.
crimes like raping children, killing children, trafficking children, torturing children, I think you get the general idea.
Oh :( Seems the exception confirmed the rule
First guy looks like he’s sniffing a pair of undies.
Isn’t it actually against the law/constitution to wear the flag as clothes?
It’s against flag code, which is not law. It’s just a set of guidelines.
No. It’s against flag code, but there is no real law or enforcement of the flag code. If you do break it, I will immediately assume you are not a patriot and instead you are a nationalist because you didn’t take the ~5 minutes to look up the flag code.
I will only assume you have no taste, because it’s just a flag and I don’t care. But that looks horrible.
It’s not even an assumption at that point. You have evidence for your claim.
I don’t think patriotism and flag code are necessarily linked.
Flag burning isn’t against the flag code. Flexing your 1st amendment is definitely patriotic.
Huh, TIL. I guess throwing it on the ground was against flag code but not the actual burning.
The burning after it touches the ground is actually what you’re supposed to do according to the flag code.
That, I also learned, is a common misconception. Flag code just says pick it up off the ground.
You’re correct
Contrary to an urban legend, the flag code does not state that a flag that touches the ground should be burned. Instead, the flag should be moved so it is not touching the ground.
I guess just if it gets tattered you’re supposed to dispose of it properly.
Not since like the 1970s
The flag itself, but not clothes designed to look like the flag.
IOW: if you’re caught in a sitcom type situation where you lock yourself outside of your house and the only thing you have available to cover your fetus production apparatus is the stars and stripes you fly on your front porch because you’re a jingoistic weirdo, you’re going to be breaking the law one way or the other.
Conversely, the above fashion faux pas is as legal as brandishing military equipment while shopping in some of the more backwards parts of the country.
Flag code is advisory and != law. If you’re naked and wrap them bits in the flag, no laws are broken.
No? Maybe like military flag code
I think its against the flag code to wear an actual flag as clothes. Not to wear clothes that look like a flag.
